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PostSubject: Re: Any heating apparatus suggestion ?   Sun Feb 15, 2009 11:44 pm

Ok
I just think you should do a pilot of this before starting the process,

I hope you put some photos here so we can watch what youdid.

I really made my mind to using the heating mantle. but I should be buying

one in two months.

You think of using a light bulb for the 200F also?

That´s almost the water simmering. My first reaction to light bulbs is that you´ll lose a lot of energy

dispersed as light and not heat.

I don´t know , and remenber that light bulbs burn out sometimes , in the middle of the night when yuo are not there watching...

give it a try anyway.
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PostSubject: Re: Any heating apparatus suggestion ?   Mon Feb 16, 2009 12:18 am

I will certainly keep the fact that the light bulbs go out some times in the middle of the night in mind. I'll buy a couple extra just in case, but I don't think that they'll go out on me for this process, but just in case. So, all together, I have about $15 for the heating pad, about $5-10 for the bulbs and clamps, and about $5-10 for a bottle of champagne with the screw cap. So, all together that would put me at about $25-$45 for the whole setup. Pretty inexpensive if you ask me. Then, all I'll have to worry about is getting a little gold for the stone, which I'll have plenty of time for that. I think I'll start with the Champagne bottle first Smile. It'll take me about a week just to get that down, I'm not a heavy drinker.
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PostSubject: Re: Any heating apparatus suggestion ?   Mon Feb 16, 2009 12:23 am

Nice start!
that´s inspirational !
but don´t take a week on the champagne itt might transmute to vinegar!
hhahahaha!! lol!
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PostSubject: Re: Any heating apparatus suggestion ?   Mon Feb 16, 2009 5:51 am

Well, my dear Brothers and Teachers,

Some of you gave very good advices, and all of you try the best, me too.
This is not a circumstance-toast but is to say thank you and to celebrate the beauty of this.
I think there are no reasons to complicate what is simple and, more, well explained by some of you, Filalletes and Nick.

Thank you all, my Brothers and Teachers.
And many thanks and wishes to Nick that gave us this... sunny

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PostSubject: Re: Any heating apparatus suggestion ?   Mon Feb 16, 2009 9:03 am

The bulb oven reminds me of an Easy Bake Oven.

Verdi Champagne $6 nice long neck metal threads with plastic cap and seal.

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PostSubject: Re: Any heating apparatus suggestion ?   Mon Feb 16, 2009 4:01 pm

Hahahaha, mrgiller, I knew I liked you for some reason. You have a sense of humor there. I was just doing some research on the Sand bath and light bulb that Nick had posted. Ok, so a 25w light bulb gets to 110 degrees F. A 40w bulb gets to 252 degrees F. So, here is my question. If one of Nick's students used two light bulbs to get to approximately 200 degrees, then would I be better off going with the 25w, or the 40w bulbs? I'm thinking two of the 25w bulbs, but is my hypothesis wrong?
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PostSubject: Re: Any heating apparatus suggestion ?   Mon Feb 16, 2009 7:09 pm

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Probably you´ll have to do some trials there and take the temperature often until
it´s right.

It`s going to be very empirical though. so start with the two of 25W but keep in mind that
a lot of heat is dispersed, the temp he says is measured on the bulbs surface,
but who knows how much is lost in the transference from that to the bottle.

you´ll have to use your inventiveness.

That´s why I ´ll go for the heting mantle. its a simpler set up.

maybe not the cheapest. but is not so expensive also.

with the bulbs you´ll have to construct someting to hold them

and I suppose to have a black plate so it can absorb the heat better.

and a lot of tweeking of the lamps to get the right temp.
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PostSubject: Re: Any heating apparatus suggestion ?   Mon Feb 16, 2009 7:19 pm

Hmm, the light bulbs might be a little too much work right now. To keep it simple, I'll probably just stick with a hot plate, like Nick said to do. I'll go back and forth from the heating pad to the hot plate.
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PostSubject: Re: Any heating apparatus suggestion ?   Mon Feb 16, 2009 7:56 pm

Hi,

I know that with say High Intensity lamps, (HIDS/HPS lamps) that over time, the light emitted is lessened and converts to heat instead as the lamp ages.

Just something maybe to keep an eye on for any deviation over time.
Like I say 4 months or so may not matter too much with our commercial lamps, but just a heads up anyway.

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PostSubject: Re: Any heating apparatus suggestion ?   Mon Feb 16, 2009 10:28 pm

Each light bulb needs to be at last 150 watts, better to use 200watts from the hardware store. Remember that the bottle is covered in sand up to the neck when it's in the sand box, so it takes a lot of heat to bring up the temperature of all that sand to 200F.
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PostSubject: Re: Any heating apparatus suggestion ?   Mon Feb 16, 2009 10:32 pm

Thanks again for clearing that up Nick. Sense I now know the wattage of the bulbs I need, I may very well do the bulb method, but I think the hot plate might be a little cheaper still.
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PostSubject: Re: Any heating apparatus suggestion ?   Mon Feb 16, 2009 10:48 pm

The hotplate would probably use less electricity because it doesn't stay on the whole time. The bulbs burn 400 watts continuously.
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PostSubject: Re: Any heating apparatus suggestion ?   Mon Feb 16, 2009 10:53 pm

Ok, I'll stick with the book and use the hot plate then, thanks Nick.
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PostSubject: Re: Any heating apparatus suggestion ?   Thu Mar 12, 2009 9:37 pm

Hi there all,

Here are my photos of the heating aparatus and dew after adding salt.

I found a double botton pan specialy for Maria Bath










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