ALCHEMY SOLAR-LUNAR WITH MIRROR AND LENS

Zosimo wrote:

Hi Auggie,
Thank you again for this path, a very meaninful indeed.
But, again, where is the original text?
I look in Rex but didn't find it.

Zosimo

Alchemy Solar-Lunar with mirror and lens : manuscripts Arcana Divina ( The Divine Secret ) , Das zweyte Silentium Dei, and the instruction of David Beuther The Transmutation of Base Metals Into Gold and Silver

For Zosimo, Auggie, Yeshua, Thanatos, of thread White Healing Salt, and for all friends of the forum.

Hi this are the link whtere are tis text: http://www.rexresearch.com/beuther/beuther.htm
and this instruction are also in one chapter final of one version german the famous book entitled "Hyle und Coahyl" by Abtala Jurain, filii Jacob Juran from the Ethiopian translated

About this special RC * alchemy solar-lunar with mirror and lens anyone have some REAL result ?

About this special solar-lunar alchemy there are also one text manuscript very interesting (of this I found the directions in a French forum) and are entitled : Arcana Adivina ( The Divine Secret ) and a translation you can found a trascription of it in this link: http://www.rexresearch.com/alchemy3/arcdivin.htm ( it not very good translation but give a good idea general about the resut and the operativity )
about this manuscript there are also of this manuscript one version integral in france language the location of the manuscript of Arcana Divina in French is:
822. London, Welcome Institute MS. 1091.
407 pages. 230x180mm. Written in Paris. 18th Century. 1777.
7. p351-407 Arcana divina. In language france

this manuscript is a very much similar of one german manuscript of the German Golden Rose Cross by 1700 entitled Das Zweytes Silentiun Dei but i have read of it only one integral translation by german but not in english the location of this german manuscript is:
1987. Mellon Collection, Yale University Library MS. 136.
66 folios. Paper. 208x174mm. 18th Century [1798.]
Johann Arndt. Das zweyte Silentium Dei in des Königs Salomonis des Weisen paradiesseschen Lustgarten [written by Gottfried Klaussen (?) in German and Latin.]
[With four pen illustrations.]

Anyone have some experience with this special alchemy solar-lunar with mirror and lens ?

RC internal degrees
for the Golden R.C. internal degrees for to have a very very good general overview with also instructions alchemical operative very interestig and the dep indication of oprativite alchemical internal of the degrees of the golden rosa cross is the very very interesting the (German) book of Bermhard Beyer Das Lehrsystem des Ordens der Gold- und Rosenkreuzer. Pansophia - Urquellen inneren Lebens.
In amazon : http://www.amazon.de/Lehrsystem-Ordens-Gold--Rosenkreuzer-Pansophia/dp/3902705027/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1351794581&sr=8-2 (now i try found and i attach version itatian in one folder)


I hope they have helped

(sorry for my bad english)

my best regards Alexbr

Alex,
1st of all I thank you very much.
Then We'll see - with the invention of some electronic instruments with sensors that seek the solar light - if it really works.
But sounds good.

Zosimo

Hi every body

1) i put here attached below one of last post of T.P. because i think this him post and hin discoveries  as very interesting for this type of experiment with alchemy solar (thanks T.P. )
and maybe T.P. have discoveries the key for attivision the sal in the process of leyda salt and dew ?

2) solar mirror and lens

http://greenpowerscience.com

i think is also intesting of altenatyve mirror maybe tis link of big lens fresnel ( if the caratteristich of this articol is good ) so any body have try work in alchemy solar with this big lens fresnel ? is real thi result say in this article I personally have tried to experiment with the grosparmy  instructions and with Arcana Divina Golden RC* instructions ( one general imperfet transcription as in web) .

http://www.rexresearch.com/beuther/beuther.htm

BUT  the dry but temperatures with solar mirror or lens were always too low to have good result
Instead I got the dry way according to the instructions de tresor de tresor of Grosparmy

http://herve.delboy.perso.sfr.fr/tresor_grosparmy.html

with 2 salt 1 sea salt and 2 salts of nitro with refractory clay crucible to reach a salt orange pink salmon






(just because I can attach insperienza with compiuter attach photo But if someone teaches me cone do I willingly inset it) then unfortunately
the oven due to corrosion of salt evaporation is broken and unfortunately seen the high costs to buy another fornre I unfortunately had to stop work and with much regret I could not, therefore, try to combine these salts with a lime and gold multiply
(which I did with much regret what really seen the results of excited salts orange pink salmon)
but I think similarly about the same thing in the same way I think we can get equivalerntamente can be achieved with appropriate mergers soltari with mirrors and lenses, and certainly in this way the material will become much more philosophical.

* RC internal degrees
for the Golden R.C. internal degrees for to have a very very good general overview with also instructions alchemical operative very interestig and the dep indication of oprativite alchemical internal of the degrees of the golden rosa cross is the very very interesting the (German) book of Bermhard Beyer Das Lehrsystem des Ordens der Gold- und Rosenkreuzer. Pansophia - Urquellen inneren Lebens.
In amazon : http://www.amazon.de/Lehrsystem-Ordens-Gold--Rosenkreuzer-Pansophia/dp/3902705027/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1351794581&sr=8-2 (now i found and i attach version itatian in thread Thesauro Thesaurorum )

(sorry all for my bad english)

my best regards Alexbr

here attached post of T.P. leyden proces wit use of alchemy solar


Wow, this is great device i had no idea about! It seems I was living under a rock.  

Ok, let's go back and finish the study on Sea Salt.

Now after i provided undeniable proof that salt from St.Ubes was truly only vulgar Sea Salt but of superior quality we should take a look which kind the Author of the letter had in my mind.

The salt that was shipped to Holland (where the City of Leyden is situated) was actually Flor de Sal.

Flor de Sal is a hand-harvested sea salt collected by workers who scrape only the top layer of salt before it sinks to the bottom of large salt pans.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sEmvNJyje8c&feature=player_embedded

I have used Fleur de Sel instead from Souther France in my last experiment but i learned from cooking experts that Flor de Sal from Portugal is more fiery than the French due to hotter climate and more Sun's fire captured in that beautiful salt.

The only question that is left to answer is why nobody managed to putrefy the sea salt and enter the black stage?

I think the answer lies in the preparation of salt before it is to be joined with dew. If we compare the method outlined in Secret Teachings of All Ages with the method in POTPOURRI1 there is a crucial difference!

Method from Secret Teachings of All Ages

http://img104.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=836381818_1_122_486lo.jpg

Method from POTPOURRI1

http://img179.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=836499208_2_122_376lo.jpg

See the crucial difference?

In the first version the Author states you should only dry the salt in a warm stove but in a second version it tells you that you MUST calcine the the salt with Sun Rays and then to dry it in a warm stove.

What does it mean to calcine it with Sun Rays? Does it mean you should only dry it in the Sunlight? No, i don't think so!

I believe it means you should infuse it with Sun's fiery rays through a powerfull lense like this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TtzRAjW6KO0&feature=player_embedded

I also believe that such calcination will change chemical composition of the sea salt and allow it to putrefy!

Now few words about collecting dew... not to be too wordy.

Capuccine monk had layed special importance on catching the dew when the Moon is at it's strongest otherwise the Dew wil not be strong enough.

Now my intuition tells me that if our Salt is prepared by infusing the Sun's fire into sea salt what will happen when we concetrate the light of the full Moon in our Dew using such a powerfull lense?
This opens a really interesting question what is the true nature of Lunar Rays?

We know that the Rays of the Sun are of Hot and Dry nature but are the Rays of the Moon of Wet and Cold nature?

John French has some very interesting notes about this:

http://img296.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=896046259_1_122_387lo.jpg

If a sponge is able to absorb the Lunar Rays without going up in flames then we can correctly conclude that the Rays of the Moon are Wet and Cold which will enable us to collect ridiculous ammounts of high quality Dew by using such lense.

Is this the final and correct intepretration of that famous letter? We will see!

Hi every body

I are finally able to attach the photos to the results of experimet obtained by solar way and dry way thanks to the suggestions by made to attaching them to bluefloor very thanks

see here above and in thread GW metodh 3 http://www.illuminated-alchemists.com/t229p270-gw-method-3#5566

my best regards alexber

Don't trust that Manly Hall or whatever his name is. It's disinfo and the recipe is intentionally screwed up because he's a Freemason. Is that really what's been happening? You've all been following Manly Hall's method? No wonder nobody can get dew working.

Follow the ORIGINAL LETTER. Every bit of it. When to collect, full moon, etc.
Book of Aquarius is also disinfo.

delphinny wrote:

Hi alexbr, thanks for the welcome back!! it has been a while ever since that fatal explosion which taught me one lesson... you only get to live life once! so make the best of your life..and keep improving it

Anyway I was able to get a water lens working, I am going to be testing it tommorow, This should be easy to ship to anyone anywhere since it is very light weight (only 2 peices of plastic) I may be able to start making them and selling them for anyone interested in doing solar alchemy works

be well everyone!

hi delphinny
very good very interesting indeed one of the main problems for solar alchemy is to get a lens sufficent powerful to melt the metals and put them in surfusione and that is what the rc gold put those particular instructions for the construction of those huge lenses appearance ( now i found and i put here the rules of Golden RC to made it lens )
therefore with great interest to see the results of your experiment and see how heat measured with the thermometer pyrometer manage to get your lenses ( please put photo of it )

to soon my best regards alexbr

"Acratus saith:- I signify to posterity that I make philosophy near to the Sun and Moon.
He, therefore, that will attain to the truth let him take the moisture of the Sun and the
Spume of the Moon.", Turba Philosophorum

Arc. Div. phil. calcination + J. French = Layden, maybe?

hello, I would like to show the test lens I made

I was searching on startpage for Newton here and found this article.. I wanted to figure out how they made these lenses, now I figured it out, great article btw http://www.alchemyandchemistry.edwardworthlibrary.ie/Chymical-Experiments/Calcination

So here is my lens, its basically two pieces of concave plastic from the RGB lights on an old projection TV that I took apart, glued them together with super glue and drilled a hole in the top to fill it with water
from what I read on that article water is better than glass at concentrating solar rays through it...





I believe these are water lenses in this picture


I don't have time right now to make any lenses because I am busy setting up my large fresnel lens and getting over a dentist visit (had my wisdom tooth pulled). So I will update you guys when I can on these things. Thanks! :)Enjoy!

hi delphinny compliment here is the clear instruction (sorry is in french ) of manuscript of the Golden rosa croix titled arcana divina of as the rc made the maschine-lens now the problem is that this lens in glass as very vert hard to do
some idea ? some solution ?

i am very interesting for the test result of this your plastic lens

my best regard alexbr


Règle fondamentale pour

faire notre machine

Nos verres ardents doivent être faits de la plus pure et la plus fine matière, ensuite supérieurement bien polis. Plus ces verres seront grands, plus leur force sera grande pour opérer plus promptement et plus efficacement pour finir une opération.
Cependant, leur grandeur suffira pour tous les œuvres ci-devant détaillés quand le verre capital contient en son diamètre 24 pouces (60 cm) et au centre 3 pouces (7,5 cm), puis le verre collectif en son diamètre douze pouces (30 cm) et au centre 2 pouces 1/3 (6,5 cm). Car la trop grande force du feu, quoi qu'il sorte de la nature, nuit néanmoins et outrepasse les genres moindres qui ne pourraient être portés dans la perfection, (fin page 379) ainsi que par comparaison nous pouvons l’observer, lors qu'un été aura été excessivement chaud et sec. C'est pourquoi chaque opération doit être dirigée suivant son espèce et par le degré du feu qu'elle requiert.
Si vous avez besoin de donner feu de fusion, il faut que le foyer entier frappe la matière exposée. Si vous voulez donner feu de calcination ou celui de digestion ou celui de distillation, vous poussez la machine exposée de quelques degrés, ainsi que nous l'avons indiqué au dessin de la machine, à proportion qu'il sera nécessaire, soit en arrière, soit en avant, ce que la pratique vous apprendra facilement.

Hi all, thought I'd share some images of the work I've done today regarding the Arcana;
this is how much my lead weighed



I notice after heating under the sun my lead would calcinate and turn red all by itself


I added Niter and heated it together with the Niter, it turned dark purple-ish and you can see red on the bottom too


the molten lead rolled off the ceramic tile but you can really see the red here where it was calcined


close up


another one I tried

I broke a few test tubes as well as cracked my ceramic tiles with too much heat, I'm going to be more gentle on heating tommorow and have a jar under the ceramic tile if it runs off...
enjoy! hopefully more to come from this research.

Hi delphinny congratulations with that lens you got what?
what yuo give photo and instruction to build in your last post or what ?

my best regards alexbr

alexbr wrote:

Hi delphinny congratulations with that lens you got what?
what yuo give photo and instruction to build in your last post or what ?

my best regards alexbr

if i am understanding your post correctly alex, you are asking about the lens? i believe it is the one he posted above. which he salvaged from a tv. if this is not what you were asking, could you try to explain better?

hi yes i ask if the lens is the sane him have post with photo in the past here yes

is the same ?

my best regards alexbr

i am pretty sure it is, yes. however, delphinny would need to confirm

thepassamist wrote:

i am pretty sure it is, yes. however, delphinny would need to confirm

no the lens is not the same, this one is much larger, you can follow the plans here how to build it
http://www.instructables.com/id/Giant-Fresnel-Lens-Deathray-An-Experiment-in-Opti/?ALLSTEPS

but I like this frame much better
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kj7aS7ToNWs

I might rebuild my frame, I pinched my finger trying to take it down recently

I just measured my lens, it measures approx 51" diagonally



also I learned that I need to be grinding my stuff to a fine powder to put on the piece of tile and I may need to be using metal crystals the way they come out of the earth (Galena instead of Lead for example)

You might want to try the lens on a gold bar or if you can, a gold orb. This is the experiment in " the Rosicrucian Notebook" where they focused lenses on gold and made a liquid drip from the gold. The Elixir?

Hi delphinny compliments very interesting bravo!!
hi E-Thor but sorry but where did you find described in the the Rosicrucian Notebook that experiment in that exact pages of the book you read what?

my best regards alexbr

Ill look it up and get back to you Alex

alexbr wrote:

Hi delphinny compliments very interesting bravo!!
hi E-Thor but sorry but where did you find described in the the Rosicrucian Notebook  that experiment in that exact pages of the book you read what?

my best regards alexbr

speaking of books is this the only image that was in your french Arcana pdf book? I never got any images just the text



Delphinny

Hi delphinny of image there are many more inside of different version of arcana divina I try to be able to load a pdf with other

Hi E-thor
gold sphere and mirror but maybe is the description of one the capter of the book wedding Chemicals of cristian Rosicroix

my best regards alexbr

Meglio che parlo come mangio (in italiano).
Mi pare che la figura mostri una coppia di lenti che producono un doppio fuoco
1) sommandosi e
2) no.
Se la traduzione dal francese è giusta agirebbe DA arsenico
oppure agirebbe SULL'arsenico...

Se un fuoco di luce lunare possa funzionare o meno in questo modo ci sarebbe da provarlo.
Però, intanto, si potrebbero usare strumenti anche più moderni e alla portata se si capisce il risultato e su cosa va ad agire nella fattispecie.

Per ora so per certo che le lenti che possono dar fuoco ad una foglia non calcinano il sale comune.
Qualche suggerimento?

I'd better to speak as I eat (in Italian).
It seems that the figure shows a pair of lenses that produce a double-focus
1) when added
2) and when no, in a simple, direct way.
If the translation from the French is correct it would would act AS arsenic
...or would act ON arsenic?

If a fire of moonlight may or may not work in this way we would have to try it.
But, in the meantime, you may also use the most modern tools and affordable if you understand the results and what we have to act ON in this case.

At the moment I know for sure that the lens that can burn a leaf is not the same that can calcinate the common salt.
Any suggestion?

hello dear firiend Zosimus therefore the word arsenic in the context of handwritten text is a phrase verbal allegory in which arsenic is the action of the moon to identify its action lunar-solar direction cuastic

my best regards alexbr

:::::::::::::::::::::::::exact original .in italian ::::::::::::::::::::::

Ciao caro amico Zosimo dunque la parola arsenico nel contesto del testo manoscritto è una locuzione verbale allegorica in cui arsenico sta per azione della luna per identificare la sua azione lunare -solare in senso cuastico

cordiali saluti alexbr

hi alexbr and Zosimo,

Zosimo I do not think they were talking about actual Arsenic in the picture but I am unable to really make out the scribblings before it was translated into Itallian from French.

in my openion the focus of lens 4 is pushed back to lens 3, which in turn pushes back to lens 2 which concentrates most of the light from lens 1.  But then you have B and C lenses? Can anyone who knows French make out the scribblings above the legible writing in that image? Thanks!!


hi alexbr, any news on the pdf ?

AHA! I may have figured it out? I think A B and C indicate a lens ajustment apparatus, where the lines are wire holders for an ajustment mechanism, A is probably two peices of wire on either side of the lens, which is secured on the side of the main lens (B) and passes around the outside of lens C. the other wires are just to hold the whole thing in place while moving the lenses to ajust the focus. This is their "machine".


Translation (thanks to http://translation2.paralink.com/translator/default.asp ):
Le lettere A,B, C indicano o mostrano come le lenti o macchine possano e debbano essere affilate o rettificate.

The letters A,B,C indicate or show how the lenses or machines can and should be sharpened or reworked.  <<-reworked gave me the lil clue here  This has to be it


C is lens 1, B is lens 2

I also see that 4 is larger than 3, large enough to reflect the light all the way back to lens 1, 3 is just large enough to reflect all the light back to lens 2, So these lenses/spheres would need to be fixed according to their optimum focal lengths.
fix lens 1 with sphere 4, so they move together.
fix lens 2 with sphere 3, so they move together.
then attach the ajustment apparatus to move the lenses!