GW Method Warning

Word to the wise: Don’t, Never, Ever! Ingest anything from the GW method, you will start getting growths on your face, arms, neck, then you will have to make an iridium elixir to get rid of the growths, and if you can barely come up with an elixir of the stone, it will be hard getting an elixir from iridium that does not have chemicals (they can be just as damaging).
IMO they are not ordinary growths, they could lead to cancer, so if you start getting them on you, chances are that internally they may be growing too, just a word of caution for all you brave souls.
I got rid of my growths by drinking colloidal Iridium and Ruthenium 4000 PPM each

hi word2give,

thanks for the warning.
But you are not supposed to ingest anything from the GW but after it is brought to the mineral kingdom in our case melting the special GW salts with gold at 2000F.

Your "growth" sounds like some fungi but the 2000F should take care of that.

Wilfried

If there are some chemicals left in the red glass perhaps superheating could evaporate them. According to nick, it can be put on a glowing copper plate and it will just flow. I wonder though if it would tinge the copper?

Wilfried wrote:

hi word2give,

thanks for the warning.
But you are not supposed to ingest anything from the GW but after it is brought to the mineral kingdom in our case melting the special GW salts with gold at 2000F.

Your "growth" sounds like some fungi but the 2000F should take care of that.

Wilfried

Thanks Wilfried, but I have already come up with the treatment and that is the colloidal iridium, its such a great antioxidant!

Yea, well I found out the hard way, when we started this path years ago, those that knew should have said something, there is no way to know for sure how deep the growths can get into your body unless you do a body scan, as a precautionary step, I suggest that no one get tempted to eat any elixir or compound from GW, until like you said they realize it is the stone of the first order.

What he means is don't ingest crystals made from the golden water. He's not talking about the stone made from metal using the golden water alkahest. That stone is no different than any other stone -- the way in which the stone is made is irrelevant as long as you purify it enough to rid it of all chemicals used in the production.

But always remember, when the stone is multiplied to the 1st Order, even a piece of the size of a grain of salt will KILL YOU! It must be properly diluted in white wine to make it a golden color -- if there is any redness, it is too strong and will be fatal to any human that ingests it!

My psychic info on this subject warned me that over half the alchemists who made the Philosopher's Stone ended up killing themselves by eating a small speck of the stone, no larger than a grain of salt.

There are certainly lots of texts mentioning death of people taking overdoses as well, so please everyone be careful with it. Thank you Nick for including the color information.

I've obtained a small amount of red material from the gold, but I'm having trouble dissolving it all (it's hard to tell if any has dissolved sometimes). I'm not sure why, but it's even the glasslike stuff that's been heated repeatedly to melting. I can dissolve regular gold in the alkahest (it turns that green color and dissolves slowly, then upon evaporation it is gold colored again), but not the red material (it either floats or eventually sinks to the bottom). Nonetheless it's interesting :-).
Still working on this little by little; just wanted to share.

Thank you again Nick for posting the material about the dosage.




Bill

Nick, do you think that a stone made from GW and heated with gold and diluted in enough wine would be a cure to my Tinnitus?

Thanks!
Adam

Hey Delphinny,

You can try Magnesium e.g. as a citrate, 2 x 300 mg/day .

Frank

I have no idea what the stone can and can't cure, so I dare not comment on such things.

Thanks for the replys guys! I really appreciate you taking the time and understand if I were in your shoes I would not want to comment either on something I have not tried on someone first.
I am directed tword this essential oil called Helichrysum, it has a known track-record of curing the born deaf and if that does not work I will go for the Low Level Laser Therapy, Anything to get some good results! Also thinking about hooking up an AC electromagnet and magnetizing some water to help (activate some light body?)
I have read of some good encounters with North pole aligned magnets to cure things on the body and promote healing.

Adam

Hey Delphinny,
I too suffer from Tinnitus, it"s a real drag, sure spoils a nice quiet night
at my buds cottage. I have found it's all about your immune system and your state of rest.
Basically, the more run down you are, the louder it gets! The Germans are now developing a white noise cancellator.
Good Luck

There have been alot of commercials on tv here about a product called Quietus that helps with tinnitus.

now my doctor says I suffer from the bones in my inner ear being misaligned and they want to perform a stapedectomy, I do not want ear surgery because I fear going completely deaf. One screw up and bam !
so I am consulting an ayuravedic doctor. it almost feels close enough to Otosclerosis, where a person is born that way but I was not.
I read online there are some Ayurvedic treatments for this
http://ezinearticles.com/?Otosclerosis---Ayurvedic-Herbal-Treatment&id=2017190

its also interesting to note my mom can perceive this when her ear is touching my opposite ear where the ringing is not, curious but interesting!
Anyways hope you all are doing okays with labwork!
on a side note, I am moving out of my house as soon as I can aford it to work and live with a High MagicK-ian and can then enter into some good alchemical practice with him.

Adam

I read somewhere some time ago that the ringing in the ears, has really got to do with the consuming of gold.

What happend according to them is that you become enlightened, and so like the saints are pictured with a Halo, the halo may be an energy field, going around in circles constantly and that may be what is producing the sound, mind comes and goes and sometimes it almost louder than the my surroundings.

Hi everyone, I have something to share..great news, my tinnitus has went down a lot, didn't take the surgery. my eardrums grew back with essential oils. and now I have made a very wonderful cure for tinnitus and anyone interested can contact me on skype: delphinny
and now on to the cure for all disseases..

Adam

delphinny wrote:

now my doctor says I suffer from the bones in my inner ear being misaligned and they want to perform a stapedectomy, I do not want ear surgery because I fear going completely deaf. One screw up and bam !
so I am consulting an ayuravedic doctor. it almost feels close enough to Otosclerosis, where a person is born that way but I was not.
I read online there are some Ayurvedic treatments for this
http://ezinearticles.com/?Otosclerosis---Ayurvedic-Herbal-Treatment&id=2017190

its also interesting to note my mom can perceive this when her ear is touching my opposite ear where the ringing is not, curious but interesting!
Anyways hope you all are doing okays with labwork!
on a side note, I am moving out of my house as soon as I can aford it to work and live with a High MagicK-ian and can then enter into some good alchemical practice with him.

Adam

delphinny, congrats on this. Today's doctors like to use surgery for everything.

I am writing this post to bring this discussion back to light. A former member, word2give, now guest started this discussion with this 'warning' :

Quote :

"Word to the wise: Don’t, Never, Ever! Ingest anything from the GW method, you will start getting growths on your face, arms, neck, then you will have to make an iridium elixir to get rid of the growths, and if you can barely come up with an elixir of the stone, it will be hard getting an elixir from iridium that does not have chemicals (they can be just as damaging).
IMO they are not ordinary growths, they could lead to cancer, so if you start getting them on you, chances are that internally they may be growing too, just a word of caution for all you brave souls."

Some people drink gw, it's called \"philosophical dew\" therapy. They drink fresh (sterile) gw, we ferment our gw .. but the spirit water and the salts that sublime are not exactly dirty old gw IMO. I could be wrong of course. I do not claim to know the answer, that's why I'm, hoping we'd discuss this.


The 'warning' might stop people from ingesting these, but what if ingesting the spirit water or crystals does have a health benefit? We are after the stone, but these are easier to obtain than the finished product.


Is there a health benefit? was the original warning valid?

Thanks

Nick's advice was to not think of ingesting anything from the gw method unless it had been brought through the crucible. This is something I can very easily agree with.

He said that when we make the stone from any of the methods then we must separate the stone from the salts that were used to make it. You can do this by putting the stone on a hot plate and melting it and most of the salt will smoke away. The rest he said should by this process be made insoluble in water (which he says the stone is soluble in water) and can be separated out by filtering.

I would heed the warning

Bluefloor. Thank you for responding. It's clear and makes sense. however I am confused. Here's why. First, I'd like to share a quote from Nick:

Quote :

The Elixir of Life is NOT made from the Philosopher's Stone from metals. That stone is only a *medicine of metals*, and without any of the Alkahest present, that stone doesn't have any noticeable effects on the mind, it only heals the body.

You will see how powerfully the Alkahest from dew affects your mind when you take that 1st dose, and then continue taking it every day. It can do what NO elixir from metals can do.

I speak from EXPERIENCE, having made the stone from metals in many different ways, and only the elixir from dew or from human fluids has a powerful affect on the mind. The elixir from metals might help your thinking process somewhat, but that is only through it's healing of the brain itself.

The elixir from metals is lacking the astral energy that your astral body needs for you to gain any psychic ability, and therefor it can't be the true Elixir of Life, but only a part of it.

I think Willy Shrodter said it best when he said in his book "A Rosicrucian Notebook" the elixir of life = the radical tonicum + something to sharpen the senses.

And that "something" is the astral spirit which isn't contained in the metals. And by sharpening the senses, he means the psychic abilities of hearing and seeing the spirit world.

from http://www.illuminated-alchemists.com/t104p30-dew-alkahest-in-wikipedia


I learned a couple things here:
1- An Alkahest is also an Elixir of Life.
2- Nick mentioned 2 Alkahests, one from morning dew the other from gw, both he says have the astral energy.


We know to make the Elixir from morning dew using the leyden process and take it medicinally. But, how does one make such elixir from gw when we are not supposed to ingest gw crystals before we fire them up, then how can an elxir be made from gw?


I'm interested in the psychic powers the elixir will impart more than the phil. stone itself or transmutation .. I am at loss on how to use the alkahest from gw as an Elixir if we are not supposed to ingest it.

If anyone has advice on this please let me know

maybe you shouldn't ingest it... stay alive... possibly?

Pray wrote:

Bluefloor. Thank you for responding. It's clear and makes sense. however I am confused. Here's why. First, I'd like to share a quote from Nick:

Quote :

The Elixir of Life is NOT made from the Philosopher's Stone from metals. That stone is only a *medicine of metals*, and without any of the Alkahest present, that stone doesn't have any noticeable effects on the mind, it only heals the body.

You will see how powerfully the Alkahest from dew affects your mind when you take that 1st dose, and then continue taking it every day. It can do what NO elixir from metals can do.

I speak from EXPERIENCE, having made the stone from metals in many different ways, and only the elixir from dew or from human fluids has a powerful affect on the mind. The elixir from metals might help your thinking process somewhat, but that is only through it's healing of the brain itself.

The elixir from metals is lacking the astral energy that your astral body needs for you to gain any psychic ability, and therefor it can't be the true Elixir of Life, but only a part of it.

I think Willy Shrodter said it best when he said in his book "A Rosicrucian Notebook" the elixir of life = the radical tonicum + something to sharpen the senses.

And that "something" is the astral spirit which isn't contained in the metals. And by sharpening the senses, he means the psychic abilities of hearing and seeing the spirit world.

from http://www.illuminated-alchemists.com/t104p30-dew-alkahest-in-wikipedia


I learned a couple things here:
1- An Alkahest is also an Elixir of Life.
2- Nick mentioned 2 Alkahests, one from morning dew the other from gw, both he says have the astral energy.


We know to make the Elixir from morning dew using the leyden process and take it medicinally. But, how does one make such elixir from gw when we are not supposed to ingest gw crystals before we fire them up, then how can an elxir be made from gw?


I'm interested in the psychic powers the elixir will impart more than the phil. stone itself or transmutation .. I am at loss on how to use the alkahest from gw as an Elixir if we are not supposed to ingest it.

If anyone has advice on this please let me know

I'm wondering the same...

Nick is simultaneously a godsend... and the most confusing man alive...

Back in like pre 2009 he was mass posting this copy paster all over the net about some guy in the Sahara. In that one he clearly states that the GW recipes will strengthen the astral body.

Now when he found dew he changed his mind and said it was only dew.

Then he changed his mind again and said it was bodily fluids or dew.

Then lastly in 2010 he said one should not consume the alkahest at all

That Nick...

Ok I can answer this one for you. Neither the salt of dew nor the GW salt has any health or psychic benefits what so ever. Both of them do have psychic energy but neither are a bioavailable form. The sea salt/dew path however has tremendous psychic and minor health benefits. The quality of these benefits is directly proportionate to it's multiplication level. Mind you that until you can actually dissolve gold in it the multiplication strength is orders of magnitude below what the finished stone is. Because of this the salt/dew has practically no power of projection.

A multiplication in quality is the substance projecting upon itself to increase it's own virtue. So it actually does have the power of projection but, that projection power is being used up,in improving it's own potency.

You can use kinesiology, in particular 'muscle testing' to find out what substances are toxic or beneficial to your wellbeing.

Years ago a Kinesiologist used this to ask what vitamins and minerals I am deficient (or in excess of) for nutritional purposes.

One method involved holding a bottle of magnesium supplements close to me and see if my body opens or contracts in regards to muscle movement. I opened up which meant that I am deficient and needed it.

I believe that this method, even though I dont fully understand it could be a way to see if a potential medicine is harmful or not.

Just a thought....  

http://www.michellesoo.com/what-is-kinesiology/