Number of posts : 90 Age : 66 Location : Germany Registration date : 2017-01-16
Subject: Identification feedback Sun Feb 12, 2017 6:44 am
Hello again everybody, It seems a bit quiet on the Forum, maybe everybody is hard at work on the Stone. I am too. I am developing and separating things that need clarification. Maybe one of you can answer one, some or all these questions.. here goes.
1. In the spout of my Alembic after destillation and on high heat, a white crystal begins to form. What is this? It smells like ammonia...
2. In the spout of my Alembic after a while of heating, a red liquer begins to come over and infest the crystals. What is this? It is sticky...
3. I separated this and put it alone into the alembic and poured roughly 5 ml of my original destilate onto it and slowly destilled. I've done this 5 or 6 times. This is described as cohobation. I have a white cloudy substance coming over. It is thicker than the original destillate and it has red spots floating on the surface which when shaken disappear easily, giving it a yellowish tone to it. What is this?
4. Should I have stopped heating when the red liquer comes? And just collect the white crystals in the spout?
5. What good is this red oil? It appears to pull moisture out of the air and liquify the crystals when set out for a day.
I think now is when we can open this Thread up for feedback on the progress we are making. If everyone is doing the same thing, with more than one mind, we can eventually identify the path we need to follow. Together we rise, devided.... well it could take a lot longer... Let's keep this constructive, explicite and informative. There is a code here and we could crack it, if we work together...
OVER!
alkem5161
Number of posts : 117 Age : 63 Registration date : 2012-12-18
Subject: Re: Identification feedback Sun Feb 12, 2017 3:57 pm
skipper the crystals thats your voltlized salt that needs to be kept by its self the red oil I would think that is the sulphur and then you have the mercury your clear sprit. the most airey part the milky liquid thats a ? could be a mercury because you have the 4 elements air fire water then the earth any one else want to chime in on this one.
you could take some of the milky liquid and put a drop on some on gold leaf see if any thing interesting happens.
Kirk
Number of posts : 248 Age : 64 Location : Canada Registration date : 2010-03-10
Subject: Re: Identification feedback Mon Feb 13, 2017 2:32 pm
Hi Skipper,
I like your approach to this subject and together we may be able to understand this mystery all the more better.
alkem5161
Number of posts : 117 Age : 63 Registration date : 2012-12-18
Subject: Re: Identification feedback Tue Feb 14, 2017 9:21 am
Skipper If i may ask what kind of heat source are you using for your high temp distill ?
fatalxerror
Number of posts : 3 Registration date : 2017-02-12
Subject: Re: Identification feedback Tue Feb 14, 2017 4:21 pm
Can you upload a picture of what your alembic looks like?
skipperthekipper
Number of posts : 90 Age : 66 Location : Germany Registration date : 2017-01-16
Subject: Re: Identification feedback Wed Feb 15, 2017 2:14 pm
So everybody, there you have it. It may sound like I know what I'm doing.... but I don't. As far as the temp. range goes, I can get up and around 400 - 450° Cel., but no more..
I am working on two, separate Stones, so I have two of everything. The one is on a normal stove with copper sheets wrapped around the hot plate. This keeps a more constant heat going.
Any more questions?
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skipperthekipper
Number of posts : 90 Age : 66 Location : Germany Registration date : 2017-01-16
Subject: Re: Identification feedback Thu Feb 16, 2017 4:13 pm
Do I know what I'm doing? No, not really... But a little feed back would be good. Its called Identification feedback. Can anybody recognize anything here?
Kirk
Number of posts : 248 Age : 64 Location : Canada Registration date : 2010-03-10
Subject: Re: Identification feedback Thu Feb 16, 2017 10:11 pm
Awesome looking setup. I'd like to have such a setup! Looks like you're on the right track... keep on keeping on... We all look forward to your progress.
skipperthekipper
Number of posts : 90 Age : 66 Location : Germany Registration date : 2017-01-16
Subject: Re: Identification feedback Fri Feb 17, 2017 3:42 pm
Really? What is SO AWESOME about my setup???? Two alembics, two recievers, a couple three stands, the stove and heating element, a pipet, a couple of glass funnels and morse and pestel to grind the salt in... oh, the table it's on... ha ha, I made that by hand. Now that's awesome work, OK. And to boot, I work in a musty dirty old basement. The only real thing is that its underground and I can take an Artillery hit and maybe live through it. WTF! If none of you guys are this far, it's about time. I need some FEEDBACK! This all costed, at the most $500 bucks. But I have two of each, so split that in half and get started. Please!
skipperthekipper
Number of posts : 90 Age : 66 Location : Germany Registration date : 2017-01-16
Subject: Re: Identification feedback Fri Feb 17, 2017 3:54 pm
@fatalxerror What kind of questions are you asking of me in my PM? I get the message that you want to know MY PATH.. Well, my path is the Morning dew Path, commonly known as the Golden dawn.. Hope this helps you further. Know however, that I will not explain this any further. Either you know what this is or you have to search elsewhere for it. But it shouldn't be very difficult to find this out. Once you have it, you can maybe better follow this thread. Good luck Skip
PS Crystals form in the spout at upwards of 300° Cel. . At 400 -450° Cel., the red liquer starts getting pushed over...
Kirk
Number of posts : 248 Age : 64 Location : Canada Registration date : 2010-03-10
Subject: Re: Identification feedback Fri Feb 17, 2017 4:40 pm
Ok... maybe awesome is too grand a word but my point is... you have the right equipment, a sound looking set-up. And now time and follow thru advancement of quest will most likely reveal more sign, truths and valued experience regarding this quest.
Having said the above I will say that IMHO, no 2 experiments and research will consistently produce the exact result. It is why we call it our Art, as with the basic fundamentals of the process, "driving by the seat our pant", very much comes into play.
You are the Artist!
ps I will be away from my computer for the next week, so there will no further comments from myself.
keep on keeping on
alkem5161
Number of posts : 117 Age : 63 Registration date : 2012-12-18
Subject: Re: Identification feedback Fri Feb 17, 2017 7:32 pm
That's a nice set up skipper that would make the whole process go alot faster im going to check into a heating mantel I use more low temp for the work and it takes for a long time to do the distilling I think you are on the right track
skipperthekipper
Number of posts : 90 Age : 66 Location : Germany Registration date : 2017-01-16
Subject: Re: Identification feedback Fri Feb 17, 2017 8:07 pm
@Kirk Tell me what you are trying to get at with your no. 2 experiment. A Salt?, A Mercury? or a Sulpher? You need these three things to get the Stone? It's that simple, but that direct. You need Our Salt, Our Mercury and Our Sulpher. I'm sure the old Alchemists were really good at their Chemistry and knew how to identify what they had. Were able to even make weaker medicines that are even today in use. I believe there are many roads to Rome, but also many that lead astray. Don't get lost on me Kirk. my regards Skip
skipperthekipper
Number of posts : 90 Age : 66 Location : Germany Registration date : 2017-01-16
Subject: Re: Identification feedback Sat Feb 18, 2017 11:22 am
Hi everybody, Here is another, more intensive video about my Lab and what I do in it.
Read my prayer, read about the universal agent (the first element), read the Kybalion (the principles) and with this overview, be able to work and learn about and on the Philosopher Stone. Without this, it may work for you. But you will be observing this from a scientific/chemistry point of view. Not that there isn't alot of information to work with, it's just that scientifically speaking, they take alot of roads that lead to dead ends. And that is exactly where we are beginning. Spirituality, which scientifically, is impossible to explain, has great symbolicy in our work. Think about the hairs on the back of your neck and how they get raised when danger is in the area. It is scientifically unexplainable why your senses are receptive for these signals, but it is a point that anybody with experience can relate to. I will post the transcript on the first element here. Read it. I believe that without it, electricity would be impossible to produce. It is the static conductor for life in every form. The more concentrated amount there is of this first element, without its Salt.... I believe, my opinion/theory of course, the more gravity is formed. Take the center of the earth for example; contained by salt, but not involved with it. The pure core of the earth is concentrated first element. Creates gravity. The Sun has more of this first element, it also has more gravity.... Read this treatise.
The first Element, the breath of GOD
This Universal fire, endowed with an intelligent instinct, called the Universal Agent of Nature, appears in a White, cold, crystalline, transparent form of nitrate, outwardly cold, but inwardly fire; When it inflames, and if there was a sufficient quantity of it and its Enemy should meet him, he would become so irritated, that he would overstep an break not only Rocks, but the whole surface superficialities on the Earth. If its fixed, Alkaloid salt, its Venus, whom it loves dearly, which alone can overcome and tame it, was not coexistent and always neat at hand, its nitrate would long ago have destroyed the whole Earth. His Wife, when as they embrace each other in Pluto's Fiery Palace, does not permit him to do mischief any longer, but lays hold of him by his very Center so that he must convert his Anger into Love and Friendship. As soon as he has embraced his Venus and is tied by ties of Love, he forgets his passion totally, so that his Enemies may approach him and even lay hold of him, he will not show the least inclination to hurt them, on the contrary enters into permanent and everlasting Friendship with them. This spirit which is in all Things is distributed in all Creatures, and non can do without it. Look to the heavens and witness Sol where he is without his beloved Venus. Look to the Moon where he has conquered. Look to our Earth where he is in everlasting Friendship everywhere, where his Venus is neat at hand. Anonymous
Take this information for what its worth to you. It makes sense to me and maybe me alone. But I thought I'd share it. my regards Skip
skipperthekipper
Number of posts : 90 Age : 66 Location : Germany Registration date : 2017-01-16
Subject: Re: Identification feedback Sun Feb 19, 2017 9:29 am
Update:
Does anybody know what the next step is?
Here I hope I am elevating a metalic vapour and condensing it in a metallic water. This is on high heat, ca. 300° Cel. + . There is a white crystal forming in the spout. When the vapour ceases to flow, the heat is turned down. Be careful not to shock the glass during cooling, cool slowly...
Night Wizard is allowed to give FREE tips here.... Even if it is on my PM...
alkem5161
Number of posts : 117 Age : 63 Registration date : 2012-12-18
Subject: Re: Identification feedback Mon Feb 20, 2017 9:27 am
Skipper you now have your salt sulphur and mercury from the text some say 3 parts salt one part sulphur and one part mercury combind in glass globe and heat till it all congels then add more mercury and sulphur to the formed stone and heat again do this over and over to increase the power of your stone you might want to powder the stone before each rotation . now some say a 1 to 1 ratio or one part of each of the 3 componets heating on low heat like that of hens heat 90 to 120 degrees F
Alkem
skipperthekipper
Number of posts : 90 Age : 66 Location : Germany Registration date : 2017-01-16
Subject: Re: Identification feedback Mon Feb 20, 2017 2:01 pm
Alkem,, slow down little buddy... I still have a lot of work to do. All I am doing here is actuating the mercury... This needs to be destilled a few more times, like 10X's. But here I believe, is the much searched for mercury vapour. This, I hope, condenses into the water and transforms it into the mercury water. Something like an activating process. It is probably the one and only real problem in making the Stone. If you don't have it, everything else is not worth trying. It is the best kept secret in this buissness and I am still not convinced that I am on to it. All I know, that vapour you see in this video, IS a good sign. But only a good sign. At any rate, if I can't disolve Silver in it after my destilling is done, then it's back to the drawing board.. It's just that simple and that's difficult enough!! Thanks for the support Alkem sincerly Skip
skipperthekipper
Number of posts : 90 Age : 66 Location : Germany Registration date : 2017-01-16
Subject: Re: Identification feedback Sun Mar 26, 2017 4:38 am