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PostSubject: You saw WHAT??   Wed Feb 25, 2009 3:16 am

I would love to know of all your "supernatural" events!! I'd share mine but since they where a while ago I don't even know if they're "real"- but please- share yours with me so that we can all know what to expect once our eyes are open by the Alkahest.

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PostSubject: Re: You saw WHAT??   Wed Feb 25, 2009 3:55 am

I've had some 20 or so forced Astral Projections but always ended up in the dream realm. I would experience a duality, being in the dream, knowing I'm in the dream, can feel, smell, see, and taste but I can also feel myself lying on my bed.
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PostSubject: Re: You saw WHAT??   Wed Feb 25, 2009 12:12 pm

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I've had some 20 or so forced Astral Projections but always ended up in the dream realm. I would experience a duality, being in the dream, knowing I'm in the dream, can feel, smell, see, and taste but I can also feel myself lying on my bed.

I can remember a clear astral projection when I was younger- but like i mentioned before- since it happened so long ago i have doubts of it being REAL or not and THAT is exactly why I would love to have a conscious OBE where I could Exit and Return thus leaving 0 doubt in my mind that its real.

anyways- the astral projections I remember- one of me bumping into the side of an apartment we lived in when i was smaller.. i felt like a balloon or something because i was clearly air-bound but not having too much control astral where I was going. It felt great though.

another time, as is usually the case- i wake up in a dream and it becomes lucid. I start feeling around at stuff like the wall and it odd how "real" it feels. It confuses me in the dream because i say to myself- I'm dreaming.. but i might not be because it feels so real. I do reality checks in dreams too like the looking at your hands trick and trying to turn off the light (apparently you can't do those things in dreams cuz your hands melt away and light switches don't work. I usually stick to the hand trick).

thanx for sharing with me,

xoxo-

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PostSubject: Re: You saw WHAT??   Thu Feb 26, 2009 2:43 am

Anything else happen to you?

Here's a good site for methods on Astral Travel

http://www.spiritual.com.au/astral.html

Also if you go to the section on Astral Projection I wrote my first forced experience and my method as well. A couple reccomendations I have for when you try is

relax and try not to tense up

Let go..... I got the feeling that I might die and stopped a couple times. Once I let it wash over me, I experienced a swirling feeling, like my whole body was twisting and spinning just above my bed. I stood up and I was in my dream but I could also feel myself lying on my bed.

When your in a dream or otherwise, RELAX. I got stuck halfway through a thick wall, when I tried to push hard through the wall everything began to fade, once I relaxed and tried it gently, I got through easily.

Get rid of distractions and loud noises before you start, they feel like physical blows.

Make sure you have no obligations the next morning, your mind needs to be focused on whats happening now and not drifting in the past or future. It holds you back to be thinking "I have to do this now, I have to get up in 6 hours for work"

Keep trying, it can take hours. When you feel like giving up, keep trying some more, eventually you will get there.
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PostSubject: Re: You saw WHAT??   Thu Feb 26, 2009 12:38 pm

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Anything else happen to you?

Here's a good site for methods on Astral Travel

http://www.spiritual.com.au/astral.html

Also if you go to the section on Astral Projection I wrote my first forced experience and my method as well. A couple recommendations I have for when you try is

I have studied the book (Astral Dynamics among others) and practiced conscious OBE for years and none of the methods seem to work. I can clearly go into trance, I can clear my mind, I can feel the energy movements, I feel myself getting lose BUT I have never been able to get past that far consciously because one of 2 things happen- I either hold my breath and end up regaining the complete awake state or I lose consciousness and fall asleep. It doesn't mater what time of day I try this the same things tend to happen. I have been faithfully practicing for years and although I do feel as if I've had astral projections- i haven't had a successful conscious projection ever.

I will read whatever is on that link to see if there is a new method I can try- the most successful I have found for me (up to the point of projection) is creating the sensation of spinning. the rope technique does nothing for me nor can i "roll" out or float out or fall out thus far. I'll review your link and post to see if that works for me. I am leaning towards needing outside help (like the elixir) in order to fully appreciate the wonders of true reality which include the seen and normally unseen.

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PostSubject: Re: You saw WHAT??   Fri Feb 27, 2009 2:18 am

After I wrote this, I wanted to try and help you a little more. When I was at home I attempted and succeeded a concious OBE, the first one I have had in months. Since it belongs in the Astral Travel area, I'm creating a thread of my experience yesterday.


However, I can say now that you are thinking too much about actually doing it, tensing up by trying to push it (simulating spinning, rope technique) and you have to get over your fear of letting go (stop holding your breath), You are not going to die. Also, your past failed attempts make it harder.

Relax, think of it only as a way to relax. As you lie on your bed, let every part of your body sink into the mattresss. Think about how great it feels as your whole body relaxes, let your heart slow down. Make sure you don't move any parts of your body but continue to let your body sink into the mattress, watch that your not tensing up. Be aware of what is going on in your body, your legs and arms begin to feel numb until you get to the point where your whole body feels like its floating, it's a wonderful sensation, relish in it and it will grow. A slight pressure will begine to grow in your forehead and you will begin to get a slight jumping feeling that begins in either your pelvis region or your mid chest, you are begging to seperate from your body. It is important that you continue to let your body sink into the mattress and jut let the ripping sensation wash over you. It will get stronger and stronger until you feel like your spinning around the room, or a rushing feeling, let go, let yourself fly away. It isn't about creating a spinning sensation, it's about not stopping it when it happens.
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PostSubject: Re: You saw WHAT??   Fri Feb 27, 2009 8:20 pm

If you conquer your barrier and progress now, you will be that much further if the elixer works, if it doesn't work you will still be at the relatively same place that you are now. I have 2 days off and I'm going to try my best to do it again so that I am that much more able to help you with your questions or any suggestions.
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PostSubject: Re: You saw WHAT??   Sat Feb 28, 2009 1:32 am

Crestington wrote:
If you conquer your barrier and progress now, you will be that much further if the elixer works, if it doesn't work you will still be at the relatively same place that you are now. I have 2 days off and I'm going to try my best to do it again so that I am that much more able to help you with your questions or any suggestions.

thanx so much for you added help Smile I've been at it forever but I'll follow your instructions of just relaxing and sinking into the mattress. Your right about my failed attempts making it harder. I'll attempt it tomorrow when i'm not so tired.

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PostSubject: Re: You saw WHAT??   Thu Mar 05, 2009 4:40 am

When we cleanse our hearts by 1.requesting that our progress only happen in accordance with cosmic law and 2.only if our time has come, we can then 3.make petition to our unseen friends to assist us 4.if it is within their ability and desire to do so.

..these simple steps as a prerequisite will make our progress rapid and most importantly in line with cosmic law. We'll also fortify a relationship with our unseen friends who will be ready to greet us warmly.
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PostSubject: Re: You saw WHAT??   Sat May 30, 2009 11:58 pm

Just like you Val, I read all the techniques and bought all the overpriced books on astral projection, and I even bought the 2 different astral projection CDs that play certain frequencies that are supposed to guarantee you success.

And the conclusion is this -- it's all complete bullshit. None of those techniques will work unless you already have the ability to focus just the right way.

Here are the 3 ways I've used for leaving my body, and none of them have ever been put in a book.

1. Above all, the best method is through a lucid dream because it pretty much guarantees success. If you just ask your higher mind to make you astral project perfectly, then your dream will end and you will feel the power rush over you, and if you are brave enough, you will leave your body.

2. When you astral project, your brain is not in the low frequency delta and theta ranges like all the astral projection books ignorantly claim. When tests were done on people who actually astral projected with sensors monitoring their brainwaves, it was discovered that your brain is highly active during the OBE experience, and in fact, it's more active than any other time in your life. It's ABOVE the beta range, into the gamma range, anywhere from 30 to 60 Hz. When your brain is operating in those high frequencies, it's processing a huge amount of information very fast, and this is called the super-conscious state, whereas the lower brain frequencies are the sub-conscious states when you are dreaming. That's why an OBE experience feels nothing at all like dreaming, and it feels even more real than normal daily life, because your brain is operating at a much higher frequency when you astral project.

So what all the astral projection 'experts' out their will tell you to do, is use a light/sound machine to flash low frequency pulses of light on your closed eyelids while you try to get down to the the deepest and slowest frequencies of theta and delta. And that is completely WRONG!

What I do is turn the frequency of my Orion light-sound unit all the way up as high as it goes, which is only 30Hz, but that's far above the normal range of beta. And then as I just lay there and let go just like I'm going to sleep, right when my brain would normally 'fall' into the deep theta or delta range and a dream would begin, instead the brain 'falls' upwards into the higher frequencies, and the OBE vibration starts.

3. The third and final method that has worked for me is to simply listen to music while letting myself get into the dream state, and then instead of going into the dream, I simply think about being under water and floating to the top because the water forces you to float. If I just keep that one thought of floating in my mind, and I have the music on loud enough to keep me from falling asleep, then eventually I begin to actually lift up out of my body, and the music I hear from the headphones makes my brain start creating it's own music, and it sounds like it's coming from the astral plane while I'm floating out of my body. This is actually the most beautiful and fearless way I've ever left my body. It's the only time I had no worries about ghosts or spirits waiting for me on the other side, and the whole room was lit up with beautiful colors when I got out of my body. And the music was amazing.

There is a really good chance the headphones method will work for anyone who tries every night, relentlessly. Eventually the night will come when you are just the right amount of tired, yet focused enough to stay concentrated on leaving your body while you listen to the music. You have to let the music go into the background of your thinking, and just keeping feeling yourself float, until you actually do start floating. You will swear you must be levitating when it happens.

I'm still 100% convinced the elixir will enable us to leave our bodies without much effort because I believe it will overcharge the astral body since we are using the real Alkahest made from morning dew. When I think about the future of this forum, I see everyone getting very good at astral projection and making regular visits to each other, and we will all inevitably meet the true Rosicrucians out their on the astral plane. And we will be able to attend the invisible college built by the 'elementals' (aliens living in the UV range).

We'll see what happens...

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PostSubject: Re: You saw WHAT??   Sun May 31, 2009 5:57 am

seeing what will happen is exactly what my wish is Nick. You've definitely told me something i haven't heard before but feels so right. Every time i've been close or felt the strong vibrations its been while I was very aware of my entire being. My vibration must have been in those higher ranges but then when I became determined and then maybe frustrated or scared then my frequency would drop again and end the process.

I'll be trying this new way and post with any success I may have.

-val

ps: I bought the CD's too!!! maybe instead of reading and listening to cds and studying so much i should have been practicing MORE. haha.. lol. Oh well its all part of the process. Sometimes knowing too much information becomes a burden to the process. Thanx for the advice.
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PostSubject: Astral experiance   Tue Feb 05, 2013 8:39 pm

I know i had an astral experiance one time but one thing that freaked me out is once your spirit is out and your new i had a problem trying to open the door Very Happy and i had to think for a minute wait i'm not in body Shocked for my first time out i had to get use to not being able to grab things and the walking on air like steps is fun to do if anyone else has tried it.But i could not open the door and after thinking Duh ok no physical body wait just walk threw door Very Happy after i walked through and was outside i always heard you could fly but the thought of doing it is what u have to get use to.At first i did not know then it hit me to just do it and i leaped off the railing and when i went up i could feel every pull of the air and the feeling of being free it was a feeling like a kid in a candy store then once i got about cloud level a huge orb shot out of the clouds and it had a streaking tail behind it shot down past me and i woke out of it.But only thing for me is its hard for me to try to astral but it comes naturaly.I'm thinking once i take the elixer my astral will finally open 100% i got out long enough to get teleported into a building and i was in a library room filled with books i got that these stories were the untold ones we don't hear about from their views how the matter of creation formed to create the physical then the dew covered the earth and the heat at its center i will hush there but alchemy and its science is very interesting......
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