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PostSubject: our baby jesus   our baby jesus Icon_minitimeFri Dec 21, 2012 8:45 pm

In light of the season, as Christmas nears, I want to mention this. As an aspiring alchemist, I began to see the history of "Jesus" and earlier religions, also Egyptian symbolism as alchemy!

Enjoy:

Krishna (krisna, christos, christ) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TgksXcesXrA

Mithra https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8U1Grl4HSRU

Jesus is the sun of healing, savior of man, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6b_DGaRNCcQ

More symbolism, trinity, sun, etc https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZZ0LmF4IlkU

May god bless the worthy ones with a Christ, born of a virgin, sun of god and savior of man.

Happy holidays

- disclaimer: the above are only ideas i have "reasoned", and are not based on lab work, only mental work, but i think i'm onto something here.
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PostSubject: Re: our baby jesus   our baby jesus Icon_minitimeFri Dec 21, 2012 9:46 pm

Thanks for posting the vids. They sound interesting to me and I will probably watch them when I get a chance.

For everyone to know: when I get time and am able to navigate through the tech, I will make another topic icon for things like this that are not quite practical alchemy, to give us a place where we can talk about a few other than practical lab things.
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PostSubject: Re: our baby jesus   our baby jesus Icon_minitimeFri Dec 21, 2012 11:58 pm

Thanks. These symbols or stories should in theory refer to lab work, IMHO. But maybe i am reading too much into it due to my obsession with alchemy these days.

A section to discuss or decode some of these symbols or (even better) to find RAMS texts that might relate to these symbols or decode them, or even find different processes that we can cross-reference from different sources, and maybe even help each other figure out / write out the steps of some processes would be interesting. Staying focused though might be impossible. There's certainly enough out there to argue and talk about.

There is a real risk people would go off arguing and discussing opinions and have endless discussions all over the place, it can get messy and confusing to newbies like me if everyone had a different opinion.
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PostSubject: Re: our baby jesus   our baby jesus Icon_minitimeFri Dec 28, 2012 12:07 pm

(Here note that ISHVO, the short form of "Joshua" which was the
Aramaic spelling of the name Jesus who is the Messiah or Christ,
shows Shin, the letter of FIRE, combined with Yod, Vau and Ayin, the
three letters that are assigned in the Sepher Yetsirah to the earthy
signs, Virgo, Taurus, and Capricorn, respectively. The name Jesus is
the number 386, or 300 and 86. 300 is Shin=FIRE, 86 is AHIH ADNI, a
name of God, asserting the identity of Kether and Malkuth; ALHIM, or
Elohim; and KVS, to preserve, to conceal; cup, goblet, receptaculum,
hence Pudendum Muliebre; and pelican, a bird used in Rosicrucian
symbology, so called on account of its throat resembling a cup or
bag. She name AHIH ADNI, which asserts the identity of Kether and
Malkuth is the secret of the saying "I and the Father are ONE." In this
connection remember that the Holy Ghost came as FIRE, and that
KVS, in all its meanings suggests the concealment, virgin birth, and
preservation of the FIRE through the feminine principle.)

Delmar Bryant LESSONS IN THE UNFOLDMENT OF THE
PHILOSOPHER'S STONE
I strongly suggest that his other works be read (I can send it by mail) because all of it has very much to do with alchemy.
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PostSubject: Re: our baby jesus   our baby jesus Icon_minitimeWed Feb 06, 2013 5:10 pm

Thanks!

Delmar is good, I found many of his books online about a yr ago. Rams has some.

Did a google search and found this for those interested http://www.scribd.com/doc/2346040/Lessons-in-the-Unfoldment-of-the-Philosophers-Stone
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PostSubject: The practical things   our baby jesus Icon_minitimeWed Feb 06, 2013 6:08 pm

Yea we need another spot to cover things that are gunna arise in areas not many will understand.Sorry for all the posts but i felt lead to do it because alot has been hitting me within the past month that has been interesting.i hope to go deeper as time lets me keep looking.Can we get a lab section where we can talk more privately in procedures and processes so maybe some with chemical knowledge could posts there so even if we miles apart we can still try the experiment.Like a Practical lab area to discuss maybe new finding like Saffron i found 1 that cures mental illness,joint pains,a whole bunch of stuff on this herb and some comes from sanskrit about this flower.Was just hinting an idea... Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: our baby jesus   our baby jesus Icon_minitimeWed Feb 06, 2013 6:21 pm

one thing is for sure seeing the practical on what matter can do once transformed the spiritual will come later once this elixer is taken and that will be the 2nd proof....They are right when stating its hard for newbies but it wont once the elixer is done this much i been reading too much this elixer can do.The proof will be in seeing right we all can say its not real but its even more interesting to see it work and to show u the spiritual after the elixer is taken because it opens the eyes of who it touches to experiance the lifeforce of your spirit is this same spiritual ethric matter and to break energy down to its soul is byond amazing...more in time i hope to go over
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PostSubject: Re: our baby jesus   our baby jesus Icon_minitimeWed Feb 06, 2013 6:42 pm

I been reading in these manuscripts that the best time to collect this matter is in the months of april and may because its at its peek in nature.The processes of alchemy were right when saying you have to follow natures course to understand where the matter lies to get it for your work.In the months of april and may go out and during a good thunderstorm collect the water.Or if u have access to a lake stick a tall Iron rod in the ground high enough for lightning to strike during a storm or u can find methods to get the lightning to hit in that spot once it does hurry and collect the water as it will be electrically charged this is the first key i will hint more later Very Happy

they called it lightning water and it had awesome properties more on this in time
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PostSubject: Re: our baby jesus   our baby jesus Icon_minitimeWed Feb 06, 2013 7:07 pm

In alchemy, sublimation can refer to the process in which a substance is heated to a vapor, then immediately collects as sediment on the upper portion and neck of the heating medium (typically a retort or alembic), but can also be used to describe other similar non-laboratory transitions. It is mentioned by alchemical authors such as Basil Valentine and George Ripley, and in the Rosarium philosophorum, as a process necessary for the completion of the magnum opus. Here, the word sublimation is used to describe an exchange of "bodies" and "spirits" similar to laboratory phase transition between solids and gases. Valentine, in his Triumphal Chariot of Antimony makes a comparison to spagyrics in which a vegetable sublimation can be used to separate the spirits in wine and beer.[5] Ripley uses language more indicative of the mystical implications of sublimation, indicating that the process has a double aspect in the spiritualization of the body and the corporalizing of the spirit.[6] He writes:


And Sublimations we make for three causes,
The first cause is to make the body spiritual.
The second is that the spirit may be corporeal,
And become fixed with it and consubstantial.
The third cause is that from its filthy original.
It may be cleansed, and its saltiness sulphurious
May be diminished in it, which is infectious.[7]


i hear theres 10 sublimations to complete work the Mutus liber along with what i gave really is what i think he follows because a few of the symbols on the pictures of the mutus liber this one in particular * and this is in the mutus liber as well makes me wonder.....I'm ordering the original scans from the library of congress here soon they are there from what i studied...
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PostSubject: Re: our baby jesus   our baby jesus Icon_minitimeWed Feb 06, 2013 7:08 pm

the pics on my profile are from its pictures they are interesting to look at.
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PostSubject: Re: our baby jesus   our baby jesus Icon_minitimeWed Feb 06, 2013 9:36 pm

drgn,

In the next few months I will open up another section for outside discussions. Because, to be effective, this practical section needs to stay consise and focused.
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