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PostSubject: SECRET FIRE,GREEN LION,SPIRITUS WINI PH,SOLVENT U.   Wed Oct 31, 2012 7:22 am

Hi every body

LION GREEN, WINE SPIRITUS PHILOSOPHICI, SPIRITUS MUNDI, ALKAEST and DISSOLVENT UNIVERSAL

Hi every body

I think on spiritus wine,philosophici ,spiritus mundi, alkaest, and universal solvent RC* and perhaps a different hypothesis on the "dew"it might be worth to study and investigate and experiment with the following article in this 3 this link ( soon attach photos ) http://www.alchemylife.org/Pages/PhiloSpiritWine/PhiloSpiritWine.html

http://f1.grp.yahoofs.com/v1/wBKRUEpffjo_LsIQlfMyXrSbJkog8awpYJAZ4Zk4VTYjgDkxXd6ZoJFavpzAjG2zP5nBj9ia_8Z-piQK8znnO43Ily4FUNkx/Spirit%20of%20Soot%20Royal%20Chymistry.jpg

and this is instead an example of how the peasants in the countryside usually get and use the wood vinegar :

http://ortodicarta.files.wordpress.com/2008/05/wood-vinagre.pdf

http://ortodicarta.files.wordpress.com/2008/05/wood-vinagre.pdf

* RC internal degrees
for the Golden R.C. internal degrees for to have a very very good general overview with also instructions alchemical operative very interestig and the dep indication of oprativite alchemical internal of the degrees of the golden rosa cross is the very very interesting the (German) book of Bermhard Beyer Das Lehrsystem des Ordens der Gold- und Rosenkreuzer. Pansophia - Urquellen inneren Lebens.
In amazon : http://www.amazon.de/Lehrsystem-Ordens-Gold--Rosenkreuzer-Pansophia/dp/3902705027/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1351794581&sr=8-2 (now i found and i attach version itatian in thread Thesauro Thesaurorum )

my best regards alexbr

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LEONE VERDE, SPIRITUS VINI PHILOSOPHICI, SPIRITUS MUNDI, ALKAEST E DISSOLVENTE UNIVERSALE

salve a tutti

Penso che su spiritus vini philosophici, spiritus mundi, alkaest ,e dissolvente universale e forse una ipotesi differente sulla "rugiada" forse vale la pena di studiare e approfondire e sperimentare l’articolo che segue a questi 3 questo link ( presto attacco foto )http://www.alchemylife.org/Pages/PhiloSpiritWine/PhiloSpiritWine.html

http://f1.grp.yahoofs.com/v1/wBKRUEpffjo_LsIQlfMyXrSbJkog8awpYJAZ4Zk4VTYjgDkxXd6ZoJFavpzAjG2zP5nBj9ia_8Z-piQK8znnO43Ily4FUNkx/Spirit%20of%20Soot%20Royal%20Chymistry.jpg

e questo invece e un esempio di come dei contadini comunemente nelle campagne ottengono e utilizzano l'aceto di legna

http://ortodicarta.files.wordpress.com/2008/05/wood-vinagre.pdf

http://ortodicarta.files.wordpress.com/2008/05/wood-vinagre.pdf

i mie migliori saluti alexbr



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PostSubject: Re: SECRET FIRE,GREEN LION,SPIRITUS WINI PH,SOLVENT U.   Fri Nov 02, 2012 2:02 am

Hey Alex , what a great collection and analysis on the spirit of wine...i am much impressed Smile
The wood vinegar also very good although a bit difficult to prepare it unless you have a nice big garden...I believe most of the common vinegar of the modern age lacks substance and the required fire for alchemical work , i would still like to experiment making a radical vinegar from both the wood vinegar and the common variety found in markets and compare the strengths...
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PostSubject: Re: SECRET FIRE,GREEN LION,SPIRITUS WINI PH,SOLVENT U.   Wed Nov 07, 2012 3:20 pm

Hi every body thaks Edgarl
Very interesting about green lion red lion and secret fire spiritus wini etc is very interesting, and very enlightening book is the alleged or Trithemius treasure auro on the Internet is the complete version in the link below Gooble books in Italian instead there is one vesion of editions Mirdad with the title gold jewel abbot thitmio
the Italian version will attach soon I do not know the other versions in other languages
if anyone knows it would be interesting to attach

Trithemii de Sponheim Abts zu Kreutzburg

http://books.google.it/books/about/Trithemii_de_Sponheim_Abts_zu_Kreutzburg.html?id=Yr45AAAAcAAJ&redir_esc=y

my best regards alexbr

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salve a tutti grazie Edgarl
Molto interessante su leone verde leone rosso e fuoco segreto e spiritus vini etc è molto interessante e veramente molto chiarificatore è il libro presunto o di tritemio il tesoro auro in internet c'è la versione integrale in gooble libri al link sottostante in italiano invece ne esiste una vesione dell edizioni mirdad col titolo gioiello aureo abate thitmio
la versione italiana la alleghero presto non so di altre versioni in altre lingue
se qualcuno le sa sarebbe interessante allegarle

Trithemii de Sponheim Abts zu Kreutzburg

http://books.google.it/books/about/Trithemii_de_Sponheim_Abts_zu_Kreutzburg.html?id=Yr45AAAAcAAJ&redir_esc=y


i mie migliroi saluti alexbr
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PostSubject: Re: SECRET FIRE,GREEN LION,SPIRITUS WINI PH,SOLVENT U.   Thu Nov 15, 2012 3:30 am

Good find.

There are a couple things I really like about this page but the best thing is all the quotes in one place…not a lot of crap in-between…Lynn Osborn has taken some serious time to put this up… nice! thank you, Lynn, you're a star!

I was working with some carbon or more specifically very finely ground 99.97% pure graphite and noticed something that was sticking to everything, floating above the liquid. What is this doing in here? But then again, why wouldn't this stuff be in carbon, like everything else?



…are we thinking like the philosophers or not? Is this stuff in everything or no?

So, here I had destroyed some of the body with some harsh chemicals, so it shines beautifully but is still not opened and clear. Mineral acids don’t open anything to any decent degree. I was using 5 parts distilled rainwater with 3 parts 28% HCL as my acid with one part 32% peroxide adding fire, making a menstrum to purge 4.5 parts of graphite (for something else I was working on). A royal water that will dissolve gold and all precious metal. After a few, this stuff starts to surface, lighter than water looking similar to quicksilver. For 48 hours I recharged the peroxide as it swam in boiling acid peroxide remaining unscathed...a bright shiny metallic powder.



I see how soot from burning wood, as fine as possible “lampblack” contains our philosophical earth…so it does make sense that it could be made from wood “burned up” as really super fine soot/smoke ash. Smoldering oak or willow collected high on glass could be easily scraped with a razor blade and collected. I have a big bag of pure oak wood charcoal chunks of wood which would be good starting material. Hobby also sells lampblack carbon but doesn't list what the starting material is. They also sell willow charcoal.

Question is, can it be used as is? Or do we need to obtain our philosophical earth first? I think we try it “as is” because otherwise it would be a huge pain and I want to avoid that…

We take our ground soot, slowly & gently calcine it to extra dryness and put it in an air tight container. Or calcine right before we put it out in the night air on the full moon to hydrate... After a few days or complete hydration add our best distilled dew or rainwater and let it putrefy, to make our vinegar, which is separated, refined down and evaporated into our starting green gum, loaded with life. That would be the optimal way to do it.

The dry way could be tried but would probably be best with only philo earth. You could still take our ground soot, slowly & gently calcine & put it out in the night air in moonlight to load it and animate the mercury. Distill out water and put the vinegar aside and a fresh receiver for the white fumes which should condense into a yellow liquid with red drops (or brown if too much air). Wine spirit to extract oil left in the earth. Or vinegar rectified on the earth several times to extract the salt and oils. Then filtered and distilled to separate.

What do you say alex, want to give it a go?

Sounds like this dragon doesn’t bite…
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PostSubject: Re: SECRET FIRE,GREEN LION,SPIRITUS WINI PH,SOLVENT U.   Thu Nov 15, 2012 7:41 pm

hi merc very interesting now i read and tramslation well your post for understood it well and to soon i answer
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PostSubject: Re: SECRET FIRE,GREEN LION,SPIRITUS WINI PH,SOLVENT U.   Thu Nov 22, 2012 7:26 am

dear Bros.,
About vinegar: in certain occasions we can use acetic acid, more than 30% w/w.
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