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PostSubject: The Seal of Hermes   The Seal of Hermes Icon_minitimeFri Aug 21, 2009 9:05 am

I have collected a few batches of Our Water and left them completely exposed. Within less than an hour, the Philosophical batches were aready differenciated from the Non-Philosophical ones (don't ask).

I picked the Philosophical ones and left them UN-sealed in wide mouthed vessels (just lightly covered with cloth & rubber band) in a place where the wind/air can reach them, but not dircectly exposed to the Sun, so the direct sunlight may not conquer and overcome our precious and secret Fire of Nature.

No artificial heat was applied, and the matter was left to go through the natural heat cycles of Night and Day (The Night dissolving and the Day coagulating).

In little more than a week's time, I was left only with dark red crystals at the bottom of my Vessels, emitting a subtle but sweet aroma. Today I started to multiply them by introducing a new motion (by means of joining them with fresh and crude Philosophical Water).

I sure hope I will soon be able to post pictures of the crystals. Time will tell if these crystals are what I've been longing for Smile

I had tried to reach my goal before, by means of long putrefactions and digestions in artificial heat, but with no signifficant success. Now I believe I have stumbled on something truly signifficant - something that had been before our eyes all along.

In Alchemical texts, there are countless references to "hermetically sealing the vessel". I am challenging everyone here to re-consider the meaning of "Hermetically Sealed".

Have you ever encountered indications along the lines of "seal your vessel tightly, but put it where the wind can reach it"? Doesn't it sound a little strange?

Some of you may be familiar with the CAC channeled version of the PS. The text is relatively coherent, up to the point where it says "the liquid evaporates by whatever occurs". What could possibly occur to a vacuum sealed vessel to make the liquid evaporate???

This can only mean one thing:

The Seal of Hermes is either PERMEABLE or NO SEAL AT ALL.

A quote from "Chemical Moonshine" may point us even further in this direction:

"The Seal of Hermes, with which Nature could and may perform its function from the beginning until the End, is to be made loosely, if not, then so the Radicale Humidum should not have enough space and air to be able to throw of the Superfluous and Heterogeneous things"

Also remember the Bacstrom Aphorism, where the suferfluous humidity is allowed to evaporate through the pores of the oak stopper! The Seal is permeable!

It is human nature to over-complicate things. Nature is the best teacher, and in Nature, NOTHING is "Hermetically Sealed", at least not the way we perceive it. Nature's permeability is what allows it to grow and renew itself, just as no man is an island and "happiness only real when shared" Smile

Hermes (or Mercury) is the god of communication, the messenger from below to above and from above to below. For Hermes/Mercury to do his Work, the lines of communication must be kept open and active at all times. Creation/Nature is not a closed system! Why on earth or heaven would Hermes need a mega-tight luted seal? It makes no sense to me!

All "Hermetically Sealed" information is actually exposed in plain sight. The "seal" is our own blindness, our split perception and our tendency to complicate things which are basically very simple. But aren't we all in love with our own sophisticated words and language twists, with our vain philosophies and theories, which mostly do nothing more than keeping us out of touch with the true works of nature?

To conclude, I recommend you dig once more into your RAMS collections, and this time into the Secret Book of Artephius. Read the introduction by John Pontanus and maybe the things I've said here will gain a little more clarity.

What I wrote here is NOT an armchair hypothesis, but a highly practical understanding.

Please treat it as such.
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PostSubject: Re: The Seal of Hermes   The Seal of Hermes Icon_minitimeFri Aug 21, 2009 6:09 pm

AB, Your cosmic Highness,
Good, very interesting.
But I think that "hermetic" means "in the way of the true philosophers" or, better, in the way of the "sophoi".
I don't think it belongs to the archetype Mercury itself.
Out of the mouth, I think it means that sometimes you have to close the stoppers, and some other times you leave, in some ways, open or quite open.
And, of course you are right, even if you close very thight a stopper you let something pass trough it...
And this can be a real mistery or, at least, a paradox.
Fortunally the universe works anyway.
And so you are right anyway.
Don't think that my armchair was cool about your insight...
Thank you.
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PostSubject: Re: The Seal of Hermes   The Seal of Hermes Icon_minitimeFri Aug 21, 2009 6:56 pm

In the book "Potpourri Alchemia" there is a very detailed description of how to make a true hermetic seal. But there aren't many processes that actually require this seal.

And remember that you can't multiply the power or strength of the red crystals, because they are what's used to multiply the power of the red glass amethyst-like material you make the gold into, which is the Stone.
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PostSubject: Re: The Seal of Hermes   The Seal of Hermes Icon_minitimeFri Aug 21, 2009 7:49 pm

NDC wrote:
And remember that you can't multiply the power or strength of the red crystals, because they are what's used to multiply the power of the red glass amethyst-like material you make the gold into, which is the Stone.

Nick, thanks for your comments. Most of my progress along the Path of Alchemy I owe to what I've learned from you.

Only time and my own practical experience will tell if I can or can't multiply the multiplier Smile

The red crystals made from Our Philosophical Water also contain the Sulfur of the Sun, just as Gold does. I have personally used (ingested) the Sulfur of this Water with minor physical benefits and unmistakable psychic benfits (and it wasn't even taken to the red stage), and I can't think of any reason why it can't be multiplied by itself (by introducing a new motion with fresh Ph. Water). You have suggested yourself the possibility of bringing the stone from Our Water to the glowing stage without adding Gold at all...

In any case, I believe that at least the multiplication of the crystals in quantity will be more efficient, once there is a starter.

As for multiplying the multiplier in quality, I may succeed or learn from my error scratch

I hope to have pictures soon... and I highly appreciate your input, as always Idea
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PostSubject: Re: The Seal of Hermes   The Seal of Hermes Icon_minitimeSat Aug 22, 2009 2:15 am

{AB} thank you for the amazing gift of the "Hidden Circulation" that Alchemist Starkey spent 15 years of his life re- discovering by studying Von Helmont....... It will be so simple to prepare the Legendary,Historical full strength Primum Ens Melissa now.. .....And It can also apparently be applied to the Minerals & Metals Too although im a little bit fuzzy at this point as to exactly how yet.. I was going to send you a e-mail describing the new Ens Melissa method from start to finish to get your input and possible corrections.. but you dont have one listed Auggie
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PostSubject: Re: The Seal of Hermes   The Seal of Hermes Icon_minitimeSat Aug 22, 2009 8:27 am

auggie wrote:
{AB} thank you for the amazing gift of the "Hidden Circulation" that Alchemist Starkey spent 15 years of his life re- discovering by studying Von Helmont....... It will be so simple to prepare the Legendary,Historical full strength Primum Ens Melissa now.. .....And It can also apparently be applied to the Minerals & Metals Too although im a little bit fuzzy at this point as to exactly how yet.. I was going to send you a e-mail describing the new Ens Melissa method from start to finish to get your input and possible corrections.. but you dont have one listed Auggie

My pleasure, Auggie (-:

Of course, the "Hidden Circulation" and the "Seal of Hermes" I've described above are one and the same thing... And it's one thing to connect the dots in your mind, but it can't compete with actually seeing this happen before yor eyes without the need to move a finger (except for setting the stage). And by 'this' I mean the perfect marriage of the Salt and Sulfur/Fixed and Volatile, accomplished by Nature alone.

I haven't listed my email on purpose, and I also don't wish to turn this into another Ens Melissa thread. Starkey's standardized method can be easily extracted from the book, but I haven't performed it myself, since I believe that the Universal crystals from Our Water will work better than any Particular, no matter towards which kingdom you wish to specify.

And even though Starkey used the correct 'Seal', it still took him a few months to achieve the Union, because he married elements from different sub-species (hence lacking sufficient attraction between them), instead of having them emerge from One Root (like Our Water), which only took a week to crystallize. And Starkey's Alkahest is already specified to the Plant Kingdom, whereas our Water (married with Itself) is truly Universal. So you could possibly use the method you've extracted from the book, and only replace Starkey's conjoined matter with the crystals from Our Water, and this will probably allow you to extract a Tincture from any Kingdom, not just from plants.

I am still working with the crystals by themselves, so I can't comment any further before I aquire practical experience with the various kingdoms - but I will gladly contact you via skype if you add your skype ID to your forum profile.
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PostSubject: Re: The Seal of Hermes   The Seal of Hermes Icon_minitimeSat Aug 22, 2009 9:10 pm

AB wrote:
The red crystals made from Our Philosophical Water also contain the Sulfur of the Sun, just as Gold does.

No, I'm afraid you are wrong about that. The proof that our Philosophical Water doesn't contain the sulfur of the sun is found when you try to perform a transmutation with just the crystals from this water alone. You can not transmute other metals to gold using the crystals from the Water, so therefor, it does not contain any sulfur of sun.

True "Sulfur of the Sun" can only come from gold, hence the reason its named after the sun. The crystals from the Philosophical Water are not the Stone, but instead are an Alkahest, which is why they can turn gold into the red glass stone just by the gently heat of Balneo Mary for 3 months. But the same thing can be achieved instantly if we simply encase those crystals in wax to protect them, and then melt the gold and do a proper projection with the wax, which takes several hours to complete the total transformation of gold metal into a red glass.

I use to have a theory this glass was monatomiic glass, but now I know better. The glass people have made from monatomiic powders is actually just formed because their powders contain so much silca.

AB wrote:
Only time and my own practical experience will tell if I can or can't multiply the multiplier

All of the best alchemy texts on the subject of our Philosophical Water will tell you that the crystals you make from the water are what you use as the multiplier, and therefore they can't be multiplied themselves, except in quantity. But they can't be increased in power. Only a metal can be increased in power, like antimony oil. That oil itself really isn't the stone because you would need to ferment it with gold to make the red glass which is the true Stone. But since it's an oil made from a metal, it can store and concentrate the energy so that a minimum of matter is holding a maximum of energy.

This reminds me of a Pulsar Star -- if you had a stone made from this star and it was the size of a baseball, it would weigh as much as a mountain. I think the same thing happens with our Stone, but to a far lesser degree. But theoretically, if we had a container that could hold the stone once it's multiplied past the 10th degree all the way to the 1000th or something incredible like that, we would see it shine ever brighter as it got even heavier and heavier, just like a star does.

It could be possible to use a strong magnetic field as a container for the Stone and we could multiply it to levels the old alchemists never dreamed of. Today's technology is able to produce a magnetic field so strong, it can levitate small animals like mice and frogs, but it takes so much power it could run an entire city. That's a hell of an electric bill! You would need your own nuclear power plant just to run the device that holds your Stone in the magnetic field. But that is just the kind of insane experiments our government would be doing with the Stone if they knew it existed, and the results would surely be catastrophic.

Crazy isn't it?

No

AB wrote:
You have suggested yourself the possibility of bringing the stone from Our Water to the glowing stage without adding Gold at all...

Yes I may have theorized such a thing, but I was wrong. It is NOT possible to make a glowing stone from anything but METALS. And it might only be possible to make 3 glowing stones -- one from gold, one from silver, and one from antimony. But I think mercury and bismuth are also able to produce glowing stones.
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PostSubject: Re: The Seal of Hermes   The Seal of Hermes Icon_minitimeSun Aug 23, 2009 12:05 am

I am not in a position to agree or disagree, since I only made it up to the red crystals - which by the way are creating a subtle but certainly noticeble energy field (besides the subtle but penetrating sweet fragrance).

Needless to say, I am very excited just to have them around me (-:

Thanks a lot for your input!
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PostSubject: Re: The Seal of Hermes   The Seal of Hermes Icon_minitimeMon Nov 26, 2012 1:37 pm

AB, and others,

What is your opinion and experience like (after all these yrs/months since this discussion was last updated) on what a hermetic seal, and hidden circulation are?

I am not writing this reply to disagree with you, god forbid, i am merely a newbie, however I want to vocalize my doubts and bump this discussion so others may chime in.

If the seal of hermes was no seal at all then why did nick include a section in his book on hermetic seals? and why does the art of distillation also refer to hermetic seals as being 100% sealed?
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