my GW3 experiment

Hi group,

I am working on the GW3 path
here the distillation after two weeks of putrefaction :


When distillation was completed, I handed over the spirit and I put the whole digested for two weeks :


Now I filtered everything. I distilled again to see the skin on the surface.

Does anyone has a picture of the skin? I do not see it appear and I fear too distilled.

To see it appear what volume you have removed by distillation?

Have someone also photos of the salt obtained by cooling?

I also read the response to ∴N.D.C∴ following: "To obtain more crystals from the dew, you need to boil away at least half the original dew, then let it sit in an open container to Putrefy for several weeks. Put a cloth on top so air can get in and out but not too much water evaporates. Once the dew has mold and fungus growing in it, you will be able to Obtain a great deal more salt than normal. "


Is it a new GW3 method ? Because according to AB in "Glass Lid with Unglazed earthern" it looks like we get no red crystals but white salt ?

Sincerely,

Chrysopee

i think Nick was talking there about morning dew not philosophical dew, you'll see the film its unmistakable and you'll have plenty of time from when you see it before it dries out to powder, and as long as you are doing the distill slowly like it is only starting a mist or steam and so it's not actually boiling. you normally do the distillation 9.5 times over and back but on the tenth time do the distill until you see the film. i don't think you have to keep the whole lot of the distilled water that comes over you can discard the first 1/4 that comes over. depending on the amount of "salt" thats in the philo. dew you have, depends on how far you go before you start to see the salt start floating on the top. you can sometimes see it early at 200mls or you might only see it about 100 or 50 mls, all depends on how good the dew salt content is.

phillip reed

Yes Philip you are right. The citation of ∴N.D.C∴ is in a morning dew subject ' Morning Dew method 3'.. sorry for the mistake

I made a confusion with the article by AB in "Glass Lid with Unglazed earthern". His GW experience is very interesting but it seems that he gets only a white salt and not red crystals. His method can probably be used for morning dew because the two pathways are similar

But I am surprised because you tell me to make 10 distillations to see the film while it seems to me that in the book of ∴N.D.C∴ (method 3) he speaks only about one distillation at first and one after the digestion.

Anybody in this forum has followed the method of ∴N.D.C∴ (GW3) and obtained the film and red crystals? (with photos maybe)

Thank you all

Chrysopée

Chrysopee wrote:

I made a confusion with the article by AB in "Glass Lid with Unglazed earthern". His GW experience is very interesting but it seems that he gets only a white salt and not red crystals. His method can probably be used for morning dew because the two pathways are similar.

The salts aren't the end of the process.
They will be digested with the red oil.

Hi Crysopee,
Your distillation and circulation apparels are very interesting.
One question: the distillation train works quikly or...
Because your beautiful upper ball-dome it's not directly connected with the channel-lip or spout that distills out your waters.
Usually there are two ways to give the proper shape to the retort:
One is this:

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The other is this one:

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...Because are both one-ways to bring the waters in the channel lip, moving upward the evaporation into the hole or, easyer, downward in the channels in the bottom, that's the usual shape of ancient distillation train (but this is from a modern catalogue just to show you), the one that Fioravanti calls orinale (= urinal because has a very large neck and...) & testa o capitello (head or capital).

But if your apparel distill quikly, please, tell us.
Where did you find it?

Zosimo

Hi Zosimo,

The principle is the head of Moor ('tête de maure' in French)

It is a glass artisan who has made it.

We must especially pay attention to the pressure (plenty of empty). Distillation is not necessarily very fast and the quantity is not very large. However, it requires no cooling. I accommodates perfectly.

In the 'head' there is a corner that collects liquids and guide them into the pipe.

Chrysopée

Chrysopee said: In the 'head' there is a corner that collects liquids and guide them into the pipe.

Ah! That's what I'm saying!
"testa di moro" it's the other name for capital (meaning the one on the column and not the amount you paid - I hope) and was my hieronimus the first times I was studying the Art with little results.

May be you already know (google it):
techinques of glass manipulation in scientific research by Julius D. Heldman.
New York 1946 Prentice Hall Inc.

Zosimo

Thats quite a neat distiller you have. I like the idea of the corner that catches the liquids.