Danger To Alchemists

∴N.D.C∴ wrote:

My psychic info on this subject warned me that over half the alchemists who made the Philosopher's Stone ended up killing themselves by eating a small speck of the stone, no larger than a grain of salt.

If we do succeed at making the Stone, I want us all to think about how important dosage is. Yes we have all heard that ingesting the Stone can very easily be deadly. And, getting the dosage right to actually feel great effects and stay well under the lethal dosage could be very hard. Think about relating it to pain killers. A factor of 10 is very important. If you take one, it is great. Your pain is gone. If you take ten times less.. nothing. If you take ten times more you could be dead. Now think of how hard it would be to get our Stone medicine accurate to within a factor of 10 when the only way to test its strength is to do a transmutation. I can see how easy it would be for Nick's above quote to be absolutely true. If we do succeed we must be very very careful and find good ways to find our Stone's strength very accurately.

Is this how we lost Nick? Nick was messing with some other dangers things, but to answer the question "Did Nick make the Stone?" and to find out how fruitful our searching of his paths will be, more information about his cause of death is important. For this reason I have decided to contact the medical examiner, which I will do in the next few days as soon as I get a good e-mail worked out.




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Hey.,

I have no doubt that Nick had the stone and the elixir. And I am sure that Nick is the incarnation of Merlin. His psychics said so his voice in his dreams said so and last not least my spirit said so.

You can look up the forum where I mentioned to Nick that the Master Franz Bardon warned: " A delveloped person should not take the stone for rejuvenation because not only the body but also the astral body and consciousness and the mental body/consciousness gets rejuvenated. So people loose their hard worked at spiritual development and retard to an earlier age ." But Nick brushed it aside and said taking the elixir he felt better each day. Yeah like taking dope which make you feel great until you have ruined your body, soul and spirit.

It seems to be right to take one drop a day of the - in white wine to yellow -diluted elixir for up to 2 weeks.

I am not a genius like Nick but I test doses of homeopathics , herbs vitamins or minerals etc. every day for more than 20 years. It is the easiest thing for me to tell anybody what dose of a remedy he needs if at all.

Frank

Frank wrote:

I have no doubt that Nick had the stone and the elixir. And I am sure that Nick is the incarnation of Merlin. His psychics said so his voice in his dreams said so and last not least my spirit said so.

I wonder what kind of psychics/Spirit was telling those things to ∴N.D.C∴?

Bluefloor posted in another thread:

bluefloor wrote:

It just keeps getting wierder. After talking to Nick's sister, I have found out that not only did Nick post in this forum "before I die this year" she said she also found in his writings that he had heard from his spirit guide that he would be gone befor the 4th of July.

The Spirits like the Holy Guardian Angel usually aren't predicting the death of a person that they are supposed to guide and keep an eye on.

This sounds more like a demonic force to me.

Pardon me T.P.,

I have talked to the wife of an Alchemist who had the stone who told her he knew from his own spirit exacttly when he was going to die. And he did.

Once you have access to your own spirit, the more you have developed spiritually the closer you are to your spirit. It is the small voice within that some call their conscience, soul, spirit, God, intuition or whatever you call it. The clearer one perceives that guidance the higher one is developed. Like Jesus when he talked to God.

The sad thing is that the spirit decides when to go. When there is no more development or not the right environment any more the journey is ended. Or when the mission is over. There are no accidents or coincidents when someone dies it is always the person' own spirit that plans death. No exceptions. The dark forces are mainly interested in twisting people's minds so that they don't go God's way but influence them to hurt others in order to have power over them and make them bad.

Frank

Many high level Masters have predicted their own deaths including John Chang's Master in the book "The Magus Of Java". In this book, heavenly retribution is the cause. Immortals can still be killed. You have to ask yourself though, was nick attached to demonic forces?

http://members.ebay.ca/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewUserPage&userid=vampirealchemist

Nick's very own words: "This was me before the "Vampire Ascension"

Does anyone have a copy of these pics?

In addition, Nick loved to dabble with spirits and all sorts of practices that normally require purification and fasting for 100 days before.

Nick was selling "VAMPIRE TRANSFORMATION SPELLED ITEMS".

I am reminded of another story from "The Magus Of Java". A man is destined to die, his friend the Master can see into the future. The Master tries to circumvent the death by having his friend run an errand, that way his friend won't be at the location where he was seen to die in a vision. Alas, the man sends his servant to run the errand and the man gets killed crossing the street a few hours later. In the book this is explained as "the will of heaven"; or jodo.

Do you believe you are fated to die? There are messages coming in from all sorts of sources. Is this a self fulfilling prophecy initiated by the suggestions of a spirit? Maybe.

Believing you are going to die is a sure way to manifest it. Choose to believe you are going to live. The mind is a powerful thing.

Frank wrote:

Hey.,

I have no doubt that Nick had the stone and the elixir. And I am sure that Nick is the incarnation of Merlin. His psychics said so his voice in his dreams said so and last not least my spirit said so.

You can look up the forum where I mentioned to Nick that the Master Franz Bardon warned: " A delveloped person should not take the stone for rejuvenation because not only the body but also the astral body and consciousness and the mental body/consciousness gets rejuvenated. So people loose their hard worked at spiritual development and retard to an earlier age ." But Nick brushed it aside and said taking the elixir he felt better each day. Yeah like taking dope which make you feel great until you have ruined your body, soul and spirit.

It seems to be right to take one drop a day of the - in white wine to yellow -diluted elixir for up to 2 weeks.

I am not a genius like Nick but I test doses of homeopathics , herbs vitamins or minerals etc. every day for more than 20 years. It is the easiest thing for me to tell anybody what dose of a remedy he needs if at all.

Frank

Your spirit huh? I take it you have successfully made the elixir then...

Personally I don't think the stone can cause harm if dosed appropriately. to my understanding you put it in white wine until you get a read solution. Then you take a drop of that and mix it in new white wine until it becomes light yellow. What is "spiritual development" anyways. Not quantifiable. I think ultimately it was mercury poisoning, not the stone.





Also along the same grain of dangers to alchemists, I remember very clearly reading on this website not too long ago someone who had taken the elixir made from the \"philosophical dew\" path. However, he described that boils or something had erupted all over this skin and that he had to take medicine to get rid of them. Does anyone still have the link to that?

bluefloor wrote:

Is this how we lost Nick?  Nick was messing with some other dangers things, but to answer the question "Did Nick make the Stone?" and to find out how fruitful our searching of his paths will be, more information about his cause of death is important.  For this reason I have decided to contact the medical examiner, which I will do in the next few days as soon as I get a good e-mail worked out.

Did the medical examiner ever get back to you on this, bluefloor? I've never seen any follow-up on this.

Here is the dosage a few grains the size of a musturd seed are to be put in white wine it should turn it blood red this is to be covered with a cloth and left to set in the dark for 48 hrs then a drop is put into more white wine it should ting it red to you haft to keep deluting the wine till it turns a golden color and a white hairy ring appears around the top of the glass this ring has to be fished the wine can not have any tinge of red or orange it has to be of a golden color if too red or orange it will kill you. now if it is deluted to much then it will still be a good medician just not as effective as it should be the key is the golden color and the white ring around the top of the glass. the dosage for the perfected golden liquid is 1 tspoon 3 time a day for 3 days for most illness 5 days for really bad cases and 7 days for termal cases no more then 7 days max or you will be forever changed . this is what i have read in many of the text of the rams collection there are many authors that speak of this Im just putting this out there for those that are interested just be careful we doint need any more dead people on this forum.