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SunWukong
Number of posts : 293 Registration date : 2012-08-17
| Subject: Instructions for prime materia Fri Nov 30, 2012 6:11 pm | |
| get a good dry fertilizer (worm casting, kelp, chicken manure, whey protien, urea and phosphate salts or a combination of these) put it in a clay pot, bowel, or bucket just make sure it gets plenty of air take fresh fruit and/or vegetables and juice them (like making a health drink) pour this juice over your fertilizer and let it sit outside this mixture is going to ferment thanks to the microorganism in the fruit and vegetables and the microorganisms in the air will be attracted to this mix and you will get something that looks like this (excuse the blur i have a bad camera for up close pictures or im just a bad photographer) [/url] basically you will get something along these lines, moss, fungus, algae, etc.but what your doing is the fermentation or putrification process, you will have prime materia in bulk once this is done growing once you get this stuff... use a really good polar solvent (water, grain alcohol even acetone will work) and mix with the fermented matter shake it up and filter with a shirt, coffee filter, paper towel, etc. let this prime materia solution sit... and then decant the clear and pure. what you do from here is totally up to you.... this should save you guys from playing with your own \"philosophical dew\", or catching dew all day long for the dew work specifically.... evaporate your solvent off...and you will have a dry matter.... just mix this dry matter with your rain water/dew water and sea salt... i cant guarantee that it will work in 3 or 4 months... but i can guarantee that its prime materia.... whatever process you decide to do undertake this is the stuff you want to use the same micro organisms in dew will be in this stuff in a high concentration you when you have this prima materia you will have PLENTY to experiment with good luck | |
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bluefloor Admin
Number of posts : 333 Age : 48 Location : Kalispell, Montana Registration date : 2009-02-10
| Subject: Re: Instructions for prime materia Fri Nov 30, 2012 11:57 pm | |
| That sounds great thanks. | |
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alexbr
Number of posts : 553 Registration date : 2009-03-26
| Subject: Re: Instructions for prime materia Sat Dec 01, 2012 2:03 am | |
| Hi SunWukong bluefloor and every body Hi SunWukong ( dear friend is really Interestingly we on the same research and experimentation ) very interesting SURE is all true and exact this is one of the Prime Materia this is a exercise gived about this by Golden Chain of Homer and under i put the photos of the result very interesting afther many some time Prenez une terre quelconque des champs ou des prés, versez-y de l’eau et broyez-les ensemble pour les bien mêler; laissez-les ensuite reposer pendant quelque temps. Vous verrez que l’eau laissera tomber la terre grossière, et se chargera seulement de la subtile qui est le sel; le sel, comme terre vierge, s’unissant avec l’eau. Lorsque cette partie terrestre en est tirée, l’eau ne peut plus agir sur la terre grossière qui reste; parce qu’elle est trop faible pour cela. C’est pourquoi il faut qu’auparavant vous réduisiez aussi en eau avec elle et par elle la terre vierge dont elle est imprégnée, c’est-à-dire que vous la distilliez en une eau spiritueuse; par ce moyen, elle acquerra de nouveau la force de séparer dans la terre restante les parties les plus subtiles des plus grossières, de les rendre semblables à elle et de les réduire également en eau, laquelle agira de nouveau sur la terre restante. C’est de cette manière que la Nature opère, tant en résolvant qu’en coagulant, dans toutes les choses de l’Univers, sans jamais franchir les degrés intermédiaires et convenables. and more : ,... de Jabyr, livre des 70 : "Prenez de l'humus, mettez dans un grand saladier, ajoutez de l'eau distillée (de pluie), chauffez à feu doux afin que l'eau s'évapore. Lorsque cela est fait, et sec, remettez de l'eau de pluie (la foudre de Zeus est symbole du feu celeste, la pluie en contient une partie) solve et coagula, de manière répétée, la terre se désagrège au contact du feu et de l'eau, elle noircit, devient comme un charbon réduit en poudre. Et là va apparaître un sel en surface de la terre, c'est le sel de la terre qui contient le feu. On a utilisé une terre, le feu, (das l'eau de pluie) et on a obtenu un sel qui est un feu cristallé. On a utilisé un médium pour parvenir à faire agir le feu sur la terre : l'eau." HERE SOME PHOTO OF THIS PRIME MATERIA IN FORM OF "GEL"GLUTINE AND WHEN BECAME SALT AU THE LAND AND ONE IS THE SECOND UP IS PRIMA MATERIA THAT WE FOUND IN NATURE YES SURE this is one of the Prime Materia but i and my friend group with amany experience by this First Matter and afther obtain it and after many circulation and many work in dry way and weth way etc BUT NEVER we arrived do solved inside in this liquid create and extract the gold meaby is good for medicine but not never dissolving gold in it this is our experience
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alexbr
Number of posts : 553 Registration date : 2009-03-26
| Subject: Re: Instructions for prime materia Sat Dec 01, 2012 2:08 am | |
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alexbr
Number of posts : 553 Registration date : 2009-03-26
| Subject: Re: Instructions for prime materia Sat Dec 01, 2012 3:15 am | |
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SunWukong
Number of posts : 293 Registration date : 2012-08-17
| Subject: Re: Instructions for prime materia Tue Dec 18, 2012 5:02 pm | |
| Not only does Golden Chains of homer explain this
but... Roger Bacons book "Mirror of Alchemy" http://alchemywebsite.com/mirror.html
explains how the prime materia for the stone can be extracted from ANYTHING
The Dissolution and Coagulation (Solve et Coagula) is the "Art" half of alchemy.... everything else is science
The Solve et Coagula aspect of alchemy is what ive been practicing and working on since 2009 and modern chemistry helps but the techniques presented in modern chemistry will not help... you need to come up with your own way... which is what most of the alchemical books are centered around.... each alchemist had their way of doing it however the ingredient were similar, if not the exact same..... which is exactly what they tell you | |
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thorbuckm
Number of posts : 3 Registration date : 2012-12-18
| Subject: Re: Instructions for prime materia Fri Dec 21, 2012 12:15 am | |
| 'excellent . So what you are saying is that "fungi" can be used instead of dew or blood to acquire the salt right ? | |
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neuthral
Number of posts : 5 Location : fin Registration date : 2013-03-12
| Subject: Re: Instructions for prime materia Sat Mar 16, 2013 12:35 pm | |
| Very interesting, is this prime matter the quintessence of elements, the first stone born from the chaotic soil of dying plants, some interesting references to the prima materia: http://www.levity.com/alchemy/ruland_e.html - 1. They originally called it Microcosmos, a small world, wherein heaven, earth, fire, water, and all elements exist, also birth, sickness, death, and dissolution, the creation, the resurrection, etc.
- 16. Salt of Nitre and Saltpetre - for it possesses their nature and kind. It also rises with greater strength and violence than any saltpetre whatever. It is, moreover, extracted from the earth.
- 41. The Virtue of mineral Mercury.
- 42. The Soul and Heaven of the Elements.
- 44. Tartar of the Philosophers.
- 48. Chaos - as it is in the beginning.
- 50. Microcosmos - because it is a likeness of the great world, through
heaven, the sea, and all elements. | |
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SunWukong
Number of posts : 293 Registration date : 2012-08-17
| Subject: Re: Instructions for prime materia Sat Mar 16, 2013 7:02 pm | |
| the mirror of alchemy and the emerald tablet of hermes explains the prime materia sufficiently
http://www.alchemywebsite.com/mirror.html
http://www.alchemywebsite.com/emerald.html | |
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Pray
Number of posts : 251 Location : USA Registration date : 2012-08-17
| Subject: Re: Instructions for prime materia Mon Mar 18, 2013 8:07 pm | |
| What Sun said caused me to understand alchemy a little better. thanks | |
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leonverde
Number of posts : 24 Registration date : 2015-01-26
| Subject: NATURAL PROCESS Tue Jan 27, 2015 6:06 pm | |
| - SunWukong wrote:
- get a good dry fertilizer (worm casting, kelp, chicken manure, whey protien, urea and phosphate salts or a combination of these)
put it in a clay pot, bowel, or bucket just make sure it gets plenty of air
take fresh fruit and/or vegetables and juice them (like making a health drink) pour this juice over your fertilizer and let it sit outside
this mixture is going to ferment thanks to the microorganism in the fruit and vegetables and the microorganisms in the air will be attracted to this mix
and you will get something that looks like this (excuse the blur i have a bad camera for up close pictures or im just a bad photographer) [/url]
basically you will get something along these lines, moss, fungus, algae, etc.but what your doing is the fermentation or putrification process, you will have prime materia in bulk once this is done growing
once you get this stuff... use a really good polar solvent (water, grain alcohol even acetone will work) and mix with the fermented matter
shake it up and filter with a shirt, coffee filter, paper towel, etc. let this prime materia solution sit... and then decant the clear and pure.
what you do from here is totally up to you....
this should save you guys from playing with your own \"philosophical dew\", or catching dew all day long
for the dew work specifically.... evaporate your solvent off...and you will have a dry matter.... just mix this dry matter with your rain water/dew water and sea salt... i cant guarantee that it will work in 3 or 4 months... but i can guarantee that its prime materia....
whatever process you decide to do undertake this is the stuff you want to use
the same micro organisms in dew will be in this stuff in a high concentration you when you have this prima materia you will have PLENTY to experiment with
good luck | |
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leonverde
Number of posts : 24 Registration date : 2015-01-26
| Subject: Re: Instructions for prime materia Tue Jan 27, 2015 6:08 pm | |
| This is something that is 100% natural without commercial chemicals | |
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thepassamist
Number of posts : 213 Registration date : 2013-07-06
| Subject: Re: Instructions for prime materia Tue Jan 27, 2015 10:10 pm | |
| Why has sun been doing everything with pdew then if this is equal to it? | |
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solarseeker
Number of posts : 360 Registration date : 2013-05-01
| Subject: Re: Instructions for prime materia Wed Jan 28, 2015 12:08 am | |
| Ooooooh I skipped over this thread the first time I saw it,but it actually makes a lot of sense. He's actually growing Gur in that flower pot. I knew the fertilizer industry was close to mimicking GW but I always thought it was missing something. It looks like sun solved the riddle and found a way to mass produce the correct salt combination and impart it with life. "nature will make a gift of Gur to her lovers" What he failed to mention is that once you have the microbiology established, you can use it to inoculate more fresh matter and keep the process going in exponentially increasing quantity. It might even be good enough to break down chemical fertilizers into something we can use.
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thepassamist
Number of posts : 213 Registration date : 2013-07-06
| Subject: Re: Instructions for prime materia Wed Jan 28, 2015 12:13 am | |
| Anyone with pics of what gur looks like? Is gur the same as manna in the bible? | |
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thepassamist
Number of posts : 213 Registration date : 2013-07-06
| Subject: Re: Instructions for prime materia Wed Jan 28, 2015 12:13 am | |
| The pic on the original post won't loaf for me | |
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leonverde
Number of posts : 24 Registration date : 2015-01-26
| Subject: Re: Instructions for prime materia Wed Jan 28, 2015 9:25 pm | |
| One time in a article Nick said : '' the real alchemy is to let nature do the job for you; so you don't have to do nothing at all .It seem that alchemists had hard time to let something alone to produce ...''.Also, Nightwizard, is claiming that he knows the secret and he said :'' Its extremely easy to do ''. Analyzing a little ,these two conclusions of different persons can fit to this procedure. I hope I'm not wrong. | |
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seasalt
Number of posts : 54 Registration date : 2013-01-19
| Subject: IRON PYRITE Wed Aug 12, 2015 3:59 am | |
| USE IRON PYRITE. THIS IS ALL YOU NEED. GOOGLE STEVEN SCHOOL ALCHEMY BOOKS. FOOL'S GOLD. THE DUH MOMENT. | |
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