Question about plant elixir/stone

I am very new to alchemy. I have read about making an elixir from plants, which can be multiplied into a stone, in books by Frater Albertus, Mark Stavish, and others. It was recommended that this be made by beginners before working with minerals, and it said the elixir is much weaker than one derived from the mineral kingdom, but still useful. The process seems simple and fun, I'm sure that people here on the forum have made this. So does anyone have advice for beginners trying to make this elixir? Do you have a favorite book about spagyrics or astrology? Can anyone share their expirience with this elixir?

The process has to do with selecting an herb, drying it, mixing it with strong alcohol, sealing it up and keeping it warm for a while. I read that vodka can be used if stronger alcohol is unavailable at the time, but would it need to be further distilled?

HELLO HOPEFUL.. THIS IS AUGGIE. IM GETTING READY TO MAKE THE "PRIMUM ENS MELISSA" MY SELF ..THE BEST BOOK SO FAR IS "REAL ALCHEMY" BY ROBERT ALLEN BARTLETT ISBN 978-0-6151-5038-3 THE ENS METHOD IS ON PAGES 60-62 .. ITS BEST TO GET 190 PROOF GRAPE ALCOHOL & ORGANIC IF POSSIBLE ..I HAD TO GET A CLASS 2 PERMIT FROM THE LIQUOR CONTROL BOARD IN ORDER TO PURCHASE IT. THE PERMIT ONLY COST 5 BUCKS . THE 190 PROOF GRAPE ALCOHOL COST $180.00 PER GALLON ..I THEN GOT A 20LB PAIL OF POTASSIUM CARBONATE FOR 25 BUCKS FROM A SOAP SUPPLY CO. THEN I ORDERED DRIED AND CUT MELISSA / LEMON BALM FROM AN HERB COMPANY IN 1 LB. FOIL PACKETS AT $14.00 PER LB. YOUR ALSO GOING TO WANT DISPOSIBLE GLOVES , EYE PROTECTION AND VARIOUS GLASS CONTAINERS. THIS METHOD DOESN'T REQUIRE DISTILLATION APPRATUS.. YOU MIGHT TRY TO " GOOGLE BOOK " THE BOOK "REAL ALCHEMY" PAGES 60 THRU 62 SOMETIMES YOU CAN GET A FREE PREVIEW.. HOPE THIS HELPS .. AUGGIE

Hello Auggie,

Sorry to pester you with trvials, but may I ask where could I order some dried Melissa Herb?

Thank You and Blessings,

Hyramposey

Hyramposey

Here you go!
http://www.crucible.org/Herbs.htm#herbs

Look at Chapter 6 "Real Alchemy" covers the Primum Ens Melissa.
Starts on p-65 thru 75

Kevin

HELLO HYRAMPOSEY.. HERES WHERE I GOT MY SUPPLYS : CHEMISTRYSTORE.COM ( POTASSIUM CARBONATE)....ORGANICALCOHOL.COM (190 PROOF ORGANIC GRAPE ALCOHOL ) THEY WILL ASK FOR YOUR CLASS 2 PERMIT NO# AND ...EDIBLENATURE.COM ( MELISSA / LEMONBALM ) 1 LB. FOIL PACKETS .. THIS IS A NICE PROJECT TO PERSUE WHILE WAITING FOR YOUR ALKAHEST TO RIPEN.. LATER AUGGIE

auggie wrote:

HELLO HOPEFUL.. THIS IS AUGGIE. IM GETTING READY TO MAKE THE "PRIMUM ENS MELISSA" MY SELF ..THE BEST BOOK SO FAR IS "REAL ALCHEMY" BY ROBERT ALLEN BARTLETT ISBN 978-0-6151-5038-3 THE ENS METHOD IS ON PAGES 60-62 .. ITS BEST TO GET 190 PROOF GRAPE ALCOHOL & ORGANIC IF POSSIBLE ..I HAD TO GET A CLASS 2 PERMIT FROM THE LIQUOR CONTROL BOARD IN ORDER TO PURCHASE IT. THE PERMIT ONLY COST 5 BUCKS . THE 190 PROOF GRAPE ALCOHOL COST $180.00 PER GALLON ..I THEN GOT A 20LB PAIL OF POTASSIUM CARBONATE FOR 25 BUCKS FROM A SOAP SUPPLY CO. THEN I ORDERED DRIED AND CUT MELISSA / LEMON BALM FROM AN HERB COMPANY IN 1 LB. FOIL PACKETS AT $14.00 PER LB. YOUR ALSO GOING TO WANT DISPOSIBLE GLOVES , EYE PROTECTION AND VARIOUS GLASS CONTAINERS. THIS METHOD DOESN'T REQUIRE DISTILLATION APPRATUS.. YOU MIGHT TRY TO " GOOGLE BOOK " THE BOOK "REAL ALCHEMY" PAGES 60 THRU 62 SOMETIMES YOU CAN GET A FREE PREVIEW.. HOPE THIS HELPS .. AUGGIE

How did you apply for the permit? Can a person just pay for it via on line?

Kevin

HEY .. KEVINPAW 123 " LIQUOR PERMIT" INFO FOR WASH STATE..
I WENT TO THE "STATE OF WASHINGTON LIQUOR CONTROL BOARD" WEB SITE AND DETERMINED THAT I NEEDED A CLASS 2 SPECIAL PERMIT. I DOWN LOADED THEIR PERMIT REQUEST FORM & PRINTED IT, FILLED IT OUT ,AND MAILED THEM A PERSONAL CHEQUE FOR 5 DOLLARS. I SAID IT WAS FOR HERBAL TINCTURES AND SOAPS AND THAT IT WAS FOR PERSONAL USE NOT FOR A BUSINESS.. 2 WEEKS LATER IT ARRIVED.. I AM RESTRICTED TO NO MORE THAT 5 GAL. WHICH IS FINE WITH ME.. IN YOUR CASE IT WOULD BE THE STATE OF....MICHIGAN LIQUOR CONTROL BOARD.. LATER AUGGIE

augie, please stop using all uppercase letters, or I will be forced to remove you from this forum. Be considerate to those who have to read what you type.

Thank you.

sorry Nick..

Hi Hopeful,

I don't know that this is necessarily a proper discussion for this forum, so Nick may end up needing to delete this, but here is the primary work by Manfred Junius on plant alchemy, i.e. spagyrics. Hope it helps.

http://www.scribd.com/doc/13032493/Junius-Manfred-Practical-Handbook-of-Plant-Alchemy

The problem I have with plant alchemy is the fact everyone assumes there is ONE process to follow for making the stone from a plant. This is just as foolish and thinking there is ONE process for making the stone from metals.

And there is also the problem of the kingdoms -- I don't agree that alchemy should be separated into the plant, animal, and mineral kingdoms. The elixir of life can be made from the mineral realm, but also from the blood of a human, and from some very special plants that have an extraordinarily over-abundance of astral energy, like Melissa.

If we simply use our Alkahest from dew on blood, we can make the stone from blood. Just by letting the blood sit out for 5 hours to separate itself naturally into 2 layers, then pour off the top clear layer, and let the bottom red layer dry. Dissolving this in the Alkahest and then digesting as if it were gold will produce the stone of the human kingdom, probably far more powerful than the stone from gold. Of course, we should really make elixirs from gold, silver, blood, and from the plant kingdom, like Melissa, in order to get the full benefits of nature's energies.

Thanks for the insight. I hope you can share the results of your experience here, and I don't think this is improper discussion at all, this being a forum for the discussion of methods for creating elixirs and stone with practical alchemy.